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Re: What programs do people use? 28-Sep-01 13:49 28-Sep-01 13:49  RealPlayer blows, the video codec sucks, the player is slow, the installation of so much filth is downright annoying. Of course, WiMP also blows. Most professionals use QuickTime. Re: What programs do people use? John Fisher24-Sep-01 6:04 John Fisher 24-Sep-01 6:04  I'm just curious whether you've tried the free one from www.Grisoft.com. It's the only anti-virus program I've used which hasn't made my system unstable. John Re: What programs do people use? Paul Watson25-Sep-01 2:58 Paul Watson 25-Sep-01 2:58  Well I thought RealPlayer was bad until I installed Go!Zilla. Man not only is that programme a pain to uninstall but holly crap does it come with fifty mini programmes that all sit there tracking your movements, displaying adverts, updating Go!Zilla's announcements.. and on and on and on. Also the whole interface is shocking, I wish it would take a hint from the dinosaurs and die. Otherwise Norton is not too bad, as long as you keep it on a short leash and don't put all the options on then your system stays fine. As for people who get viruses all the time... wake up and listen to Christian. All those Warez sites filled with porn will give you infections and email attachments are as bad as the red light district in Amsterdam. Play it safe, get protection! *no, no affiliation with any condom manufactures, promise regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes Bonzai Buddy Christian Graus25-Sep-01 15:00 Christian Graus 25-Sep-01 15:00  I've not had Go!Zilla ( I use mIrc for my growing media collection ) but the WORST ever pseudo virus is Bonzai Buddy. Someone here at work is STILL trying to get rid of the last remnants of this thing. It's a blue monkey that wanders your desktop freely, telling bad jokes and generally being more annoying than the @#()$#@() paper clip. He also offers to help you find the best deal on things, in other words he is a self installed spammer that redirects you to his website at random intervals. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery. Re: Bonzai Buddy Paul Watson26-Sep-01 1:30 Paul Watson 26-Sep-01 1:30  Oh man I have not even installed that phuketing Bonzai Buddy and it annoys me. ICQ keeps showing me ads regarding it and a couple of my favourite websites pop-up "download your new best friend" adverts which drive me bananas (excuse the pun). When I first saw it I thought "oh god, Barney has morphed into a gorilla, save us all!". The really sad bit about all of this? A friend, new to computers, thinks it is really cute and wants to install it. I throttled that idea out of his head pretty damned fast. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes Re: Bonzai Buddy Michael Martin26-Sep-01 3:16 Michael Martin 26-Sep-01 3:16  I had a fool at work who installed this on their laptop, it pissed me off so much I uninstalled it and tracked every last bit of it down. Problem is now I can't remember how I did it. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone Re: What programs do people use? Michael P Butler26-Sep-01 1:10 Michael P Butler 26-Sep-01 1:10  Ah Go!Zilla, another piece of spyware masked as a useful app. Between it and RealPlayer, they've turned me into a privacy freak. Although I did find the Go!Zilla functionality useful. Anyone know of a less annoying app which will allow me to schedule a list of downloads. I've been thinking of writing one but don't know much about the internet download side. I wish Microsoft would intergrate one into XP Michael Re: What programs do people use? Paul Watson26-Sep-01 1:20 Paul Watson 26-Sep-01 1:20  GetRight is another Go!Zilla like app. Schedule downloads, resume etc. But I have not used it for awhile so it may also have gone the spyware route of Go!Zilla. They should integrate it into Internet Explorer... IE's download "capabilities" are pretty horrendous (though this is not saying other browsers are any better). But I will bet if MS integrated a download app into IE they would be sued for some or other reason by some or other company. Crap. ..."Between it and RealPlayer, they've turned me into a privacy freak"... lol don't get me started on you privacy nutter... err advocates again. I did not mind Go!Zilla recording that I downloaded BritneyNekkid.zip from PornStars.com but all those ad's just freaked me out. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes Re: What programs do people use? Allen Sun26-Sep-01 10:56 Allen Sun 26-Sep-01 10:56  I've been using GetRight and it's pretty good.(not sure about the newer version tho) The best feature I like is the segment download. It's really handy when the download speed is really crappy. Re: What programs do people use? David Wulff27-Sep-01 10:31 David Wulff 27-Sep-01 10:31  Opera has a resume download feature I believe IE does this too... I downloaded a large part of a 20MB or so download, and them my connection was lost (damn you BT). When I dialed in again I was expecting to ahve to start from scratch, but when I clicked on the link IE resumed the downlaod from where it got to. I haven't seen this feature documentated, but IE stores the file in a temp directory whilst downloading, together with basic information about it like the name and source. This would enable it to resume the download if necessary. so might be useful for viewing BritneyNekkid.jpg It's a lot quicker just to get a magnifing glass and a barbie doll... they both have the same plastic content, and look the same. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Re: What programs do people use? Michael P Butler28-Sep-01 2:08 Michael P Butler 28-Sep-01 2:08  IE6 does seem to resume a download where it left off, which is very useful. Now if only they'd build in a download queue so that I can schedule to download files. Michael Re: What programs do people use? David Wulff28-Sep-01 8:56 David Wulff 28-Sep-01 8:56  if only they'd build in a download queue so that I can schedule to download files. If they did then every company that produces downlaod acceleration software, etc, would sue for blood. "MONOPOLY! MONOPOLY! MONOPOLY!" David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com Re: What programs do people use? ov24-Sep-01 1:55 ov 24-Sep-01 1:55  I'm using FreeBSD 4.3 with nat and ipfw on a dediacted machine And an AVP but only like a virus scanner (monitor have halted my system several times) With the best regards, Vitaly. Re: What programs do people use? Luc Bergeron24-Sep-01 2:53 Luc Bergeron 24-Sep-01 2:53  Hummm, build myself an OpenBSD box for the firewall and run Norton Anti-Virus on the main box. That seems to do the job well ! Luc. Re: What programs do people use? Jörgen Sigvardsson24-Sep-01 3:52 Jörgen Sigvardsson 24-Sep-01 3:52  For inbound traffic I use FreeBSD 4.2 box running NAT/ipfw. For outbound traffic I use ZoneAlarm Pro. It is scary how many programs actually tries to communicate over the internet w/o any hint. Good thing Mr ZoneAlarm gives me the option to say no. I also require IE to prompt me for scripts and activex controls. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I still haven't had any viruses since '93 (Remember the "Jerusalem" virii family? Re: What programs do people use? Tomasz Sowinski24-Sep-01 4:12 Tomasz Sowinski 24-Sep-01 4:12  I'm using Tiny Personal Firewall. I've used ZoneAlarm in the past, however, its UI is the worst piece of crap I've ever seen. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com Re: What programs do people use? Anna-Jayne Metcalfe24-Sep-01 5:27 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 24-Sep-01 5:27  ZoneAlarm and McAfee VirusScan. My desktop machine (an IBM Aptiva) came preinstalled with Norton Antivirus but it never did really get on with the Display Driver (an integrated Rage Turbo 3D Pro). When I upgraded the Aptiva to Win2K the copy of Norton that came with it wouldn't work and I was sufficiently FiretrUCKed off with it by then that I just went out and got McAffee. No problems since. I haven't had any problems with ZoneAlarm. It's simple and seems to be effective - I ran a test using Gibson Research's grc.com and was impressed enough with the results not to bother trying anything else. Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net) http://www.resorg.co.uk "Be yourself, not what others want you to be." Re: What programs do people use? Leithian24-Sep-01 6:04 Leithian 24-Sep-01 6:04  I'm using the very good Norton Internet Security as a firewall and McAfee AntiVirus 5. ----------------------------- Nobody's perfect but this is no excuse for bad code! So let's code well! (Chris Meier) Re: What programs do people use? Michael Dunn24-Sep-01 7:56 Michael Dunn 24-Sep-01 7:56  When I upgraded the Aptiva to Win2K the copy of Norton that came with it wouldn't work Well, that's because NAV is a totally different product (different binaries, that is) betwen 9x and NT/2K. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ Trillian: What are you supposed to do with a manically depressed robot? Marvin: You think you've got problems. What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robot? Re: What programs do people use? Anna-Jayne Metcalfe25-Sep-01 9:41 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 25-Sep-01 9:41  Yep. I realised that when I read the Win2k setup compatibility report. I already had McAfee running happily on my laptop, so I decided to standardise. The problems with Norton under '98 just tipped the balance.... Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net) http://www.resorg.co.uk "I'm just another 'S' bend in the internet. A ton of stuff goes through my system, and some of the hairer, stickier and lumpier stuff sticks." - Chris Maunder (I just couldn't let that one past ) "Be yourself, not what others want you to be." - Me (unless someone else thought of it first) Re: What programs do people use? John Fisher24-Sep-01 6:07 John Fisher 24-Sep-01 6:07  At home, I use the free versions of Zone Alarm and AVG anti-virus from Grisoft. I really like them both, especially since the other things I've tried cause more problems than they fixed. John AVG antivirus from Grisoft free ??? F Braem24-Sep-01 22:26 F Braem 24-Sep-01 22:26  AVG antivirus from Grisoft is only free for users in the United States and not for users from Europe. Why? I use InoculateIT Pesonal Edition. Re: What programs do people use? William Bartholomew24-Sep-01 12:04 William Bartholomew 24-Sep-01 12:04  I use Norton Anti-Virus on my workstation and I use Sygate Personal Firewall (free and very good) to protect it from my ADSL connection, and I have a RedHat Linux box protecting my web and mail servers from their permananent dial-up connection. All works very well... Re: What programs do people use? Josh Knox25-Sep-01 1:23 Josh Knox 25-Sep-01 1:23  That's what I use. Except ZoneAlarm has caused me a problem lately. It wont accept my password(I use the same password for everything so I know its not me). The only programs it'll let go online are IE and outlook. It blocks the rest. No quakeIII @:<( And zonelabs wont respond to my emails.....Bastards!!! Josh josh@that-guy.net Re: What about anti-add software? 26-Sep-01 22:54 26-Sep-01 22:54  I use InoculateIT Personal Eddition for antivirus protection on my W2K. It takes very little of system resources and never did cause any problems. Only minor inconvenience is that its updates are big to download (~720KB). Before that I tried AVP from Kaspersky Labs (www.kasperskylabs.ru). Probably it's a toughest antivirus app in the world, but it requires a lot of CPU. On PII300 with NT4 it was unbearable to work because of small delays all the time. Also, I'm using Naviscope (www.naviscope.com) for anti-banner/popup windows protection. It runs smoothly with IE5.5 on W2K and wipes out ~95% of banners add from web pages. Unfortunately this project is no longer supported, so I don't know what to do when I'll upgarde from W2K to something else.. I think that nowadays when addware and spamware is so common, there is a real demand for some good anti-add software protection. It's annoying much more than viruses.

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