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@GregUtas
Where's the CCC? 
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"We don't need no education:" [^].
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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This would certainly be a paradise for little nerds, but only for them. Add some classes for Star Trek and comics to attract them. The rest gets a diploma in sports, meditational dancing or for participation.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Is this a 'real' news website? The English is appalling - which is not good for an article about education. And you get the 'Accept Cookies pop-up' every time you go to a page. Even one you've already been to! 
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You forgot the important one: 💩
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sry sry u 4gt 1 💩
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CodeWraith wrote: the telephone hugging fondling idiots
FIFY - Hugging was before they became "better acquainted".
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Can we introduce them to social distancing from their phones?
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Tell you what, the most abbreviations I saw were in real time coop shooters online and in ye olde days of SMS with 160 characters.
Today with whatsapp and vocal messages the trend declined substantially, at least in Italian.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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How, precisely, are you going to teach robotics without mathematics, physics, computer science, and many other subjects as prerequisites?
The above subjects are necessary even if you do no more than assemble Lego robots (great fun, but I wouldn't want one on an assembly line for cars, for example). Designing and building robots from scratch requires much more.
There is an organization with branches in many countries, First, which runs robotics programs:
- FLLjr (First Lego League jr) (primary schools) - basic building of Lego robots, basic challenges
- FLL (First Lego League) (middle schools) - more advanced building of Lego robots, more advanced challenges
- FTC (First Tech League) (high schools) - beginning building of robots (not Lego), intermediate-level challenges
- FRC (First Robotics Competition) (high schools) - advanced building of robots, advanced challenges
Each program has local, regional, national and international competitions.
The FLL teams that I have mentored reached the national competitions, but failed to reach the international level.
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Is he going to hire all the people that "graduates" in his school? 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I think schools can do better.
I'm also opposed to tests with grades.
Maybe not entirely, but get this.
Over in the Netherlands I spent six years at high school, three of which my grades counted towards my final grade... For 50%...
The other 50% is completely based on a single test (for each subject) on a single day!
Take English, I don't think anyone here doubts my English skills, and after six years my average was a 9 (out of 10).
For some reason I completely blew the final exam and got my average down to a 7! 
I had kind of the opposite for math, which I got from a 6 to a 7 though
At my final German test I fell asleep and somehow scored an 8.8 which counted 3x towards my final grade, just got me a passing grade
It's like the past six years hardly even counted, makes no sense at all.
And then, after eight years of primary school, six years of high school and four years of university, I can't even fill out my own tax forms
Maybe schools should teach at least some practical skills for everyday adult life.
And one thing schools could absolutely do better, is show where and when you might need certain skills.
English is clear, Dutch is clear-ish (I mean, I already know Dutch, why am I being taught Dutch as a Dutchman!?), but I'm NEVER going to need math, right?
The curriculum isn't going to matter much though, with the current teacher shortage, which is only getting worse, we won't have schools at all in a few years 
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Upvoted ... Sander Rossel wrote: At my final German test I fell asleep and somehow scored an 8.8
I knew you had special powers !
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Sander Rossel wrote: Maybe schools should teach at least some practical skills for everyday adult life.
They did: they were all outdated in a year or two.
Granted, italian bureaucracy spins faster than a helicopter blade, but still...
All the bank and postal forms I learnt to compile no longer exist. Tax forms changed a dozen times in 20 years. Tax legislation changes once or twice a year...
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I was looking for a reason why application that is working fine most of the time all of a sudden showing this odd timeout errors and discovered that people are actually getting on to the production SQL Server box and building SSRS and Power BI reports. PowerBI is the main culprit chewing up all the CPU ( hitting 100% ) and very large amount of memory. Only reason they don't want to do dev work somewhere else is they don't want to spend money for new server or upgrade current one with more resource. It is speced for SQL server and not for development. They are happy to pay for support while we investigate and re run same steps as application from backend but don't want to spend on upgrade.
I am worried some day someone will kill that box...
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Sounds to me like the access and permissions to that production server need to be restricted to read only access and a new sinatcne spun up for the devs.
Although even that is being generous, if you restore production instance to the dev instance each night the devs should never need to go anywhere near the production server.
Given your current setup, it's a given that someone is going to commit some change to production that will require a full restore.
It's just a case of when.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: if you restore production instance to the dev instance each night the devs should never need to go anywhere near the production server.
That's a nice theory. The problem with the backup/restore idea is that you can't say "just backup the tables". You get the entire database, and that will overwrite views, functions, and stored procs that the devs may be working on. And that's assuming they're not working on tables (adding/removing columns, keys, and/or constraints).
The only recourse is to be able to re-sync the code from a database source project after a restore happens, but that also has dangers because devs are forced to check-in code that possibly doesn't work, unless there's a "work" database on the server where transient procs are developed and then moved to the actual database project when they are finished.
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Unfortunately it's not just a theory it's a reality of how I and all the other devs I work with develop.
In terms of losing work it just means that we have to be very organised to save our work outside of the database in the form of scripts.
We also have local databases which persist and are very cut-down versions with regards to data that we can work on but much of the time the data in the local databases is not sufficient for proper testing.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Amazing to watch.
Then again, if I were them, I would have stayed on the ISS. 
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I dunno - just how difficult is it to social distance up there? And if they run out of masks, hand sanitiser, and TP it's a bl**dy long way to the nearest shops...
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OriginalGriff wrote: just how difficult is it to social distance up there?
What social distancing? If someone is confirmed ill, they simply kick him out the airlock! 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I wonder if they'll have to do 2 weeks quarantine?
Not for our sake, for theirs!
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