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Marc Clifton wrote: Why the heck should I be a free ad billboard for them?
Next car I buy, I'll ask if they'll send me a check for $20/mth ad space.  Fair enough, right?
BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright
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Marc Clifton wrote: I also remove the dealer's license plate frame from my car. Why the heck should I be a free ad billboard for them?
I don't mind the license plate frame as long as it is black and doesn't have a dorky slogan. Where I draw the line are the decals. I tell them upfront "Put a decal on the car and the deal is off!!!"
"The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull
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I mostly install pre-release bits of programming platforms/SDKs. I have had the pleasure (many times over) of installing/uninstalling the .NET Framework 3.0 on my home machine w/o the luxury of Virtual PC keeping me safe (WPF stresses my box to limit as is!).
I normally don't install pre-release bits of non-dev apps. Come to think of it, I hardly use my computer for anything other than dev. Weird. 
:josh:
My WPF Blog[^]
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Josh Smith wrote: installing/uninstalling
Except with some beta software the beta seems to stretch to the uninstall function as well, and can leave you feeling like you've taken your car to a dodgy mechanic. Everything was supposedly put back... but it just doesn't quite run the same
"Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office) ~ ScrollingGrid: A cross-browser 2-way-scrolling freeze-header control for the ASP.NET DataGrid
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I used to have a BMW - but after all these dodgy mechanics I ride a three legged goat! (just kidding - it's not that bad )
:josh:
My WPF Blog[^]
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote: made the term 'beta' meaningless
It means you don't have a right to get upset if it goes down or if it doesn't quite work as you expected... Google can just say: "well it is BETA".
And it means they don't have to waste their precious PHD employees' times having to support the systems and answering dumb questions like "why doesn't your compose editor have more smilies?"
"Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office) ~ ScrollingGrid: A cross-browser 2-way-scrolling freeze-header control for the ASP.NET DataGrid
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Once I installed VS2005 Beta and it was an adventure 
Seriously, for me it's interesting to install betas when they are on the final stages of development and to know what are offering or improving.
Marc.
... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits
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Visual Studio still seems to be in beta state now 
It hangs on me like ten times a day.
I love the new stuff, though.
Lutz
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hmm, I haven't got that problem.
I loved the beta, it was fun to see how much changed over time 
WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?
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Yes, for a beta it was ok but not for a commercial release 
... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits
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True, but that's the whole point of beta's. Test out features and repair bugs. Not to be a product that is done.
WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?
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Hmm,
does a system with Pentium 4 3 Ghz Processor and 1 GB Ram count as low end system?
VS 2005 handles a lot of things hidden from the developer.
If any of these hidden things are changed, VS 2005 is veeeery fragile.
It is great when it runs.
I use databinding a lot and it hangs a lot.
Probably have to know how to use it.
Lutz
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Mostly I install beta software into a Virtual PC partition, unless it is higher level consumer software like MSN messenger or Windows Media player which I assume to be safer and install on my main box. (Hey, I like life with a little risk)
Michael
CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I almost never install beta software, but sometimes, just for the fun of it, I might.
Right I use Office 2007 Beta, and is really starting to like the new Outlook
- Anders
My new photo website[^]
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Anders Molin wrote: sometimes, just for the fun of it
Same here... if I'm curious enough.
Earlier this year I installed IE7 Beta2... only afterwards did I read somewhere that it can't be un-installed!
"Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office) ~ ScrollingGrid: A cross-browser 2-way-scrolling freeze-header control for the ASP.NET DataGrid
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You sure choes a doosy of a beta to install. I am using Office 2007 Beta too but Outlook is noticeably beta software. More so than normal for MS.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Paul Watson wrote: I am using Office 2007 Beta too but Outlook is noticeably beta software. More so than normal for MS.
I don't have any problems with it... I use it against an Exchange server, that might be why.
- Anders
My new photo website[^]
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OK. We are using IMAP here and it is slow and crashes Outlook a few times a week.
Outlook 2007 is a good improvement though. Love the live search for one.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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