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I belive there are more ASP, VB programmers in the world than VC++ programmers. Well at least I can say that coz i meet lot of ppl who work on VB, ASP rather than on VC++.
And hey this questions should have gone in the Lounge. its a general discussion not a suggestion.
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Mr.Prakash wrote:
And hey this questions should have gone in the Lounge. its a general discussion not a suggestion.
True, this would be a good general discussion. However, my point was to suggest a monthly contest for VB.Net.
Aaron Eldreth
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
However, my point was to suggest a monthly contest for VB.Net.
I think there is montly article compition so that covers vb.net as well.
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Mr.Prakash wrote:
I think there is montly article compition so that covers vb.net as well.
Really? They don't have it listed onthe monthly competitons page[^].
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the rules says,
"Each month the best article in each category (MFC/C++, C# etc) ..."
notice the etc in the end that includes VB stuff too, plus this month one of the winner is from ASP.NET
so your request is baseless.
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"notice the etc in the end that includes VB stuff too, plus this month one of the winner is from ASP.NET"
If there are prizes for each category, does that mean CP gives prizes for HTML?
I've not seen prizes for VB.Net, but if you can locate a prize winner, I would love to see it.
"so your request is baseless."
Was it really? I did't (and still don't) see a VB.Net monthly competition. Thus, my request for a VB.Net competition is based, and your charge that my request is baseless is actually baseless itself.
Aaron Eldreth
TheCollective4.com
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While much is too strange to be believed,
Nothing is too strange to have happened.
- T. Hardy
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
I've not seen prizes for VB.Net, but if you can locate a prize winner, I would love to see it.
Well may be there was never been a pricewining vb.net article.
Aaron Eldreth wrote:
Was it really? I did't (and still don't) see a VB.Net monthly competition. Thus, my request for a VB.Net competition is based, and your charge that my request is baseless is actually baseless itself.
The article compition applies for all as the compittion rules states. So now you want vb.net compition, then there would be C# competition and HTML competion, then perl competition then CP will break up into 2 one for vb.net articles and other for the rest of the articles.
Where will it end ?
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Mr.Prakash wrote:
I belive there are more ASP, VB programmers in the world than VC++ programmers.
POssibly. However, how many VB programs do you use, and how many C++ ? That is, what languages are used to write real programs that make it to market and succeed ?
Christian
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I dont care wheather there are less C++ programmers or more...
Personally i would not like many non VC++ articles here is CP. May be i am selfish or wrong or stupid, but thats the way i am.
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
To try and even this balance, a VB.Net monthy competition could be added. That might inspire programmers to post their VB.Net code.
I agree with you. I think this monthly competition thing will definitely attract programmers of other languages to contribute their code like C++ programmers do.
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IMO, I love CP because it is non-VB (for the most part).
I can go ANYWHERE to find an answer for a problem using VB. But I don't use VB (because it sux) and it ticks me off that google responds with 20 pages of VB links to every C++ link when I'm looking for something.
Maybe this should go in the Soapbox since I'm ranting, but you asked.
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I 2nd that.
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
But does that really mean that CP revolves around VC++?
i believe yes.
If you take a look at VB/VBScript article section you'll find that there are many unedited contributes..though hundereds of articles are edited monthly..
VB6/VB.Net are very popular and need more attention.
I say this although I prefer VC++,C#.. But I really think that VB6/VB.Net are great.. programmers need many flavours
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
Since there are less VB.Net and C# articles, CP attracts less developers for those langauges
I wouldn't say so, exactly. C# and VB.NET are both emerging languages so there are less developers in those languages at the moment. C++ has been around for many more years. I was originally a C++ programmer (started semi-commercially in 1995, fully in '96) until a couple of years ago when I switched to C#. Probably in a year or so the numbers will even out. But, even although I no longer commercially program in C++ I still like to "keep my hand in" and dabble occasionally and the C++ articles are great.
From a personal point-of-view I'd prefer more C# articles than VB.NET (I know is is a stereotype and unfair on the large number of people who make their living writing VB.NET code, but VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [over 12 years ago now])
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
From a personal point-of-view I'd prefer more C# articles than VB.NET (I know is is a stereotype and unfair on the large number of people who make their living writing VB.NET code, but VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [over 12 years ago now])
I agree with you that VB.Net's syntax does look old. I can program C#, but I use VB.Net mainly because I find it's syntax easier to read than thousands of curlies. But, it's mainly personal preference.
Aaron Eldreth
TheCollective4.com
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
I agree with you that VB.Net's syntax does look old.
I didn't say it looked old. However, I can see how my previous post could indicate that was what I meant. So I retract the statement "over 12 years ago now".
What I meant was the VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [which was before I learned how to program properly]. The inference being that it looks immature or childish.
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Also take into account that CP was around before .NET was released in any form. This has been touted before as the big reason that there are far more VC++ messages in its forum as opposed to the C# forum, as well as why there were so many more articles.
As far as more VC++ developers in this world go, I majorly disagree. Most "developers" in this world don't really belong in this world, and runtime like VB were so much (far too much) is taken care of for your automatically does not promote nor require good development skills, which is what makes VB so attractive to many people.
PS: There are good VB developers that can do amazing things, but these are typically the kinds of developers that understand how the VB runtime works and can design efficient solutions.
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I really like the direction the CP member pages are going. The RSS feed of the "blog" is great and I particulary like the style used to show the first message of each thread, so well done to the team for that.
However now that these blogs can be syndicated outwards I think further control by the member is needed.
The first step would be to let the user delete any message in their personal space, not just ones they have posted. The reason for this is that if you hand out the RSS URL to say your development team leader so that he can keep track of you and then a troll comes along and posts offensive messages in your blog, well you might get in some hot water.
It is a personal space and so I don't see a problem with deleting other users messages within your domain. People may be less inclined to use the blog feature if they cannot control it fully.
I personally don't mind but not everyone is me (thank god).
To reiterate, great feature guys and thank you.
regards,
Paul Watson
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I second everything.
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Jeff Varszegi
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Paul Watson wrote:
The first step would be to let the user delete any message in their personal space, not just ones they have posted. The reason for this is that if you hand out the RSS URL to say your development team leader so that he can keep track of you and then a troll comes along and posts offensive messages in your blog, well you might get in some hot water.
I hope no one will use CP's blog for professional use; not that it's not good and well done, but professional "blog" should stay internal or at least fully in control of the company that you work for.
Maximilien Lincourt
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My example was poor, I certainly did not mean it as a task/production tracker.
What I mean is say I post on my blog and a colleague of mine has the blog in his RSS reader. Some other CPian then posts something very offensive in reply to my post and my colleague then reads it.
I personally don't mind, my colleague should not be judging me based on some other nuts trolling.
But, some people do mind and they would not want their colleagues seeing a bad reflection on them. That CPian would want to delete the troll post and they should be allowed to.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
South Africa
Christopher Duncan quoted:
"...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives"
Crikey! ain't life grand?
Einstein says...
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While there is a good selection of CodeProject apparel and stuff, there is one thing missing. Many CPians are physically active, and who whouldn't proudly display a Bob-emblazened water bottle at the gym or while riding a bike??
Good water bottles are hard to find.
Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.
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HI!
Why till now doesn't have a Perl messageboard.
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Because Perl has nothing to do with Visual C++/Microsoft.
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