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IMO, I love CP because it is non-VB (for the most part).
I can go ANYWHERE to find an answer for a problem using VB. But I don't use VB (because it sux) and it ticks me off that google responds with 20 pages of VB links to every C++ link when I'm looking for something.
Maybe this should go in the Soapbox since I'm ranting, but you asked.
"We have done so much in the last 2 years, and it doesn't happen by standing around with your finger in your ear, hoping everyone thinks that that's nice." - Donald Rumsfeld
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I 2nd that.
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
But does that really mean that CP revolves around VC++?
i believe yes.
If you take a look at VB/VBScript article section you'll find that there are many unedited contributes..though hundereds of articles are edited monthly..
VB6/VB.Net are very popular and need more attention.
I say this although I prefer VC++,C#.. But I really think that VB6/VB.Net are great.. programmers need many flavours 
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
Since there are less VB.Net and C# articles, CP attracts less developers for those langauges
I wouldn't say so, exactly. C# and VB.NET are both emerging languages so there are less developers in those languages at the moment. C++ has been around for many more years. I was originally a C++ programmer (started semi-commercially in 1995, fully in '96) until a couple of years ago when I switched to C#. Probably in a year or so the numbers will even out. But, even although I no longer commercially program in C++ I still like to "keep my hand in" and dabble occasionally and the C++ articles are great.
From a personal point-of-view I'd prefer more C# articles than VB.NET (I know is is a stereotype and unfair on the large number of people who make their living writing VB.NET code, but VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [over 12 years ago now])
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
From a personal point-of-view I'd prefer more C# articles than VB.NET (I know is is a stereotype and unfair on the large number of people who make their living writing VB.NET code, but VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [over 12 years ago now])
I agree with you that VB.Net's syntax does look old. I can program C#, but I use VB.Net mainly because I find it's syntax easier to read than thousands of curlies. But, it's mainly personal preference.
Aaron Eldreth
TheCollective4.com
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
I agree with you that VB.Net's syntax does look old.
I didn't say it looked old. However, I can see how my previous post could indicate that was what I meant. So I retract the statement "over 12 years ago now".
What I meant was the VB.NET looks like the programs I wrote in high-school [which was before I learned how to program properly]. The inference being that it looks immature or childish.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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Also take into account that CP was around before .NET was released in any form. This has been touted before as the big reason that there are far more VC++ messages in its forum as opposed to the C# forum, as well as why there were so many more articles.
As far as more VC++ developers in this world go, I majorly disagree. Most "developers" in this world don't really belong in this world, and runtime like VB were so much (far too much) is taken care of for your automatically does not promote nor require good development skills, which is what makes VB so attractive to many people.
PS: There are good VB developers that can do amazing things, but these are typically the kinds of developers that understand how the VB runtime works and can design efficient solutions.
Microsoft MVP, Visual C#
My Articles
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I really like the direction the CP member pages are going. The RSS feed of the "blog" is great and I particulary like the style used to show the first message of each thread, so well done to the team for that.
However now that these blogs can be syndicated outwards I think further control by the member is needed.
The first step would be to let the user delete any message in their personal space, not just ones they have posted. The reason for this is that if you hand out the RSS URL to say your development team leader so that he can keep track of you and then a troll comes along and posts offensive messages in your blog, well you might get in some hot water.
It is a personal space and so I don't see a problem with deleting other users messages within your domain. People may be less inclined to use the blog feature if they cannot control it fully.
I personally don't mind but not everyone is me (thank god).
To reiterate, great feature guys and thank you.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
South Africa
Christopher Duncan quoted:
"...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives"
Crikey! ain't life grand?
Einstein says...
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I second everything.
Regards,
Jeff Varszegi
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Paul Watson wrote:
The first step would be to let the user delete any message in their personal space, not just ones they have posted. The reason for this is that if you hand out the RSS URL to say your development team leader so that he can keep track of you and then a troll comes along and posts offensive messages in your blog, well you might get in some hot water.
I hope no one will use CP's blog for professional use; not that it's not good and well done, but professional "blog" should stay internal or at least fully in control of the company that you work for.
Maximilien Lincourt
Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
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My example was poor, I certainly did not mean it as a task/production tracker.
What I mean is say I post on my blog and a colleague of mine has the blog in his RSS reader. Some other CPian then posts something very offensive in reply to my post and my colleague then reads it.
I personally don't mind, my colleague should not be judging me based on some other nuts trolling.
But, some people do mind and they would not want their colleagues seeing a bad reflection on them. That CPian would want to delete the troll post and they should be allowed to.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
South Africa
Christopher Duncan quoted:
"...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives"
Crikey! ain't life grand?
Einstein says...
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While there is a good selection of CodeProject apparel and stuff, there is one thing missing. Many CPians are physically active, and who whouldn't proudly display a Bob-emblazened water bottle at the gym or while riding a bike??
Good water bottles are hard to find.
Sometimes I feel like I'm a USB printer in a parallel universe.
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HI!
Why till now doesn't have a Perl messageboard.
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Because Perl has nothing to do with Visual C++/Microsoft. 
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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Are you serious?
"We have done so much in the last 2 years, and it doesn't happen by standing around with your finger in your ear, hoping everyone thinks that that's nice." - Donald Rumsfeld
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Gurmeet S. Kochar wrote:
Is Microsoft a sponser of CP?
may be one of the sponsors.
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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I agree that there should be one. Some people who use Microsoft software also use Perl, and the site has some articles on Perl. Perl also doesn't represent a major threat to anything that Microsoft does, like Java or Linux. In my experience, Perl on Windows is often the tool of choice for service providers on Windows (I've worked for a couple of web hosting companies).
Regards,
Jeff Varszegi
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humm, i dont have much knowledge about perl but i guess it does pretty much what ASP does, rite ??
and CP has a forum on ASP.NET
So i still belive Perl forum is out of question..
Ppl always do request for new forums but they are all are turned down by Chris.;)
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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Well, it is used in web pages, but it can be used for any general scripting task; I've only worked with it long enough to fix a couple of other people's bugs myself. The thing is, it's used by an awful lot of transplanted Unix programmers for productivity reasons, and I can't thing of another such full-featured quick scripting tool for automating things on Windows. I think it's a little more mature than VBScript, although I guess with VBScript you can always do CreateObject to create a COM object; I don't really know, that's not my cup of tea.
I just don't think that the notion of a Perl message board should necessarily be dismissed out of hand. The reality is that lots and lots of people use Perl on Windows. If this is a Microsoft advertisement and fan site, then maybe it shouldn't be allowed; if, however, the goal is to provide the best possible site for programmers working with Microsoft stuff, then it makes sense to include it.
Regards,
Jeff Varszegi
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Jeff Varszegi wrote:
If this is a Microsoft advertisement and fan site, then maybe it shouldn't be allowed;
I belive that there is a link at msdn.microsoft.com to codeproject as CP has tiedup with them...
plus CP is mostly centers around VC++ developers. VB is i guess slowly been phased out... (Thats what i think coz one guys VB article was not accepted)
Well, perl i really dont know much what it can do and what not... so no comments on perl itself. but i dont think chris is going to consider that.
There are so many hot technologies around that can be also included, but since this site is all bout VC++,there is little chance for Perl forum.
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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My dear Mr.Prakash!
Since you don't know about Perl and guess you also have not a very good idea about codeproject. As U exclaim this to be VC++ centric website. I do appreciate your love for VC++ and CP, but just drum it into your mind that compnaies do use Perl for it's Windows device drivers. So if this site is promoted by MS, it should include Perl forum also.
And one more tip to U Win32+Perl = you are king of system programming.
cheers!
siddharth
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SiddharthAtw wrote:
Since you don't know about Perl and guess you also have not a very good idea about codeproject
CP is VC++ centric wheather you like it or not and you will hear the same thing from most of the ppl here.
SiddharthAtw wrote:
but just drum it into your mind that compnaies do use Perl for it's Windows device drivers.
how many companies 1,2 or do they use DDK for Developing Device Drivers. I am not aware of DD being developed using Perl.
SiddharthAtw wrote:
So if this site is promoted by MS, it should include Perl forum also.
Then i would suggest forums for DDK, DirectX, ODBC, OpenGL, MFC, Win32SDK, GDI/GDI+, etc,etc.
God is Real, unless declared Integer.
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