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The latest competition doesn't appear to be tagging articles with the usual "this is a competition entry and doesn't follow the usual rules for articles" header when they arrive in moderation - is this a mistake, or are we supposed to treat them as "full articles" and recommend them as tips or reject them this time?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: are we supposed to treat them as "full articles"
Absolutely.
This is an article writing contest. Entries must be articles.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Just when I was starting to feel like I wanted to spend time answering QA questions again: [^].
Note the listing of who closed version #1 of the post shows this member: [^]. This person is a newcomer to CodeProject with very little participation in the site.
The other two people listed as closing the post, for version #2, Tadit Dash, and Rohan Leuva, are, however, "veterans" here, and, imho, far too "quick on the trigger" to close questions, as are many other CP old-timers.
I would like to think that my over 13 years participation in this site, and my track record of quality answers to QA questions ... is respected.
thanks, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
modified 9-Oct-15 4:27am.
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Sadly, there are way too many itchy trigger fingers. I'm happy for posts to be closed if they are abusive or spam but closing due to some perceived quality issue, that I have a problem with. I don't know why we don't just try to help improve the way people ask questions.
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I know how you feel, this happened to me once and then I just gave up on actively participating in Q&A, in other words I don't often write answers any more.
To me the problem is not just with the closing of badly written or duplicated questions, the problem lies with how the veterans often treat these newcomers.
There questions are being down-voted on regular basis, now I don't think the newcomers mind or care or even are aware of this, but to me this just comes off as if the Q&A is full of impatient or even hateful developers...
I don't know why most of developers participate in Q&A, but I just got a feeling that the reason is not in order to help other, it seems like its about something else...
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I always report such questions because it is expected that OP atleast try something. Even guuideline says that you Google something before posting question.
As per as that post is concerned, i would have left that question if OP had some doubts. That answer can clearly be answered just by learning those concepts (Which are very very basic and not at all complex).
I've not gone against any Codeproject guidelines at all.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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Perhaps you would care to remove the stick from your butt and learn a bit of empathy. How do you know that they haven't Googled? Perhaps they haven't found the right keywords - even giving them a Google link showing the keywords is a better answer than just kicking their question off. It's an arrogant approach and is one of the reasons I don't help in QA - the arrogance of the people in there who seem to be obsessed by their "expert" ranking is, quite frankly, disgusting. To my mind, this goes against the whole spirit of the site which was originally designed to be helpful and welcoming.
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Excellent reply, I couldn't agree more.
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I completely agree with you.
I should really think @chris-maunder should take a call on such trigger happy response.
Newbie should feel welcome and should learn from community. A proper comment or reply will go a long way than nuking it,
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: learn a bit of empathy
I don't need your advise. Keep it with you.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: How do you know that they haven't Googled?
After reading the question,one can easily figure out the same.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: this goes against the whole spirit of the site which was originally designed to be helpful and welcoming
And that is something which has made quality of QA worse.
Cool down. You are not judge or Admin.Advise someone whenever they act against Codeproject guidelines. You are free to give your opinion,not to order someone aggressively. This is community site and everyone is free to use the functionalities provided by Site Admins. Bill has expressed his opinion and let the Admins think over it. If they decide to make changes in reporting mechanism,we will follow that also. Before asking me to learn something, learn how to express something. Blaming someone for not helping in QA is not quite appropriate.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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I think a more proper response to Pete would have been - no response. I am pretty sure he has more wisdom than you, in such matters, and has been with this site far longer than you.
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Slacker007 wrote: more wisdom than you, in such matters, and has been with this site far longer than you
So what? The point is, advise should always be polite. And even in this topic advise was not ncessary. I report what i think should be reported. If you think something should be reported,report it. Its in noway against the guidelines. Now,if someone feels that i should follow his/her thoughts,that won't be the case. If you are member since a long time doesn't mean you respond to anyone aggressively.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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Well said. I am sure that many of the people here, agree with you. 
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Hi Rohan,
Please be assured that you and Tadit both have my respect, and appreciation for your contributions. I now regret mentioning you and Tadit by name.
I think this is a structural problem in QA: some posts are so clearly "gimme code" or "homework" that they virtually "beg" to be deleted.
The terse version of what I see as the "structural" problem: number of #1 votes is a weak metric for a decision to remove the OP and all comments and solutions.
But, there are others, as in the post I responded to, where my intuition suggests there just might be someone on the other end of the question ... perhaps someone struggling to communicate in English ... who could benefit from a little guidance, or encouragement.
So, there's a subjective judgement call involved; honestly, I think I've had a long enough experience teaching and writing about programming to make that call ... of course, I will make mistakes. I'd like to think that even in my mistakes I might leave something valuable to someone else "behind me" 
The other benefit I've experienced, at times, from extending myself a bit on a dicey question is that other CP members come along and give me some feedback that teaches me something new, or causes me to re-evaluate my assumptions ... or post other answers that show techniques I've never seen before.
I know that if I see a CP MVP who has taken the time to give a thoughtful reply, I will never vote to close the question. That there is one CP MVP who not only gives "un-thoughtful" answers, but, at the same time votes the post #1 ... who I won't name ... well, I'm not going to let that distract me.
I hope you and Tadit will know that I offer my views here without any animus towards you.
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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Strongly agree with your point.
I mostly leave question without reporting it when i see some answers there,but in this case when i reported it your answer was not there. I respect your concern over this matter and sorry for the inconvenience.
Practically, this problem can be solved in a way that whenever there are answers Question can't be deleted. That's the only solution IMO.
BillWoodruff wrote: I hope you and Tadit will know that I offer my views here without any animus towards you.
Sure.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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This has been raised many times and the answer has been the same all along. Right now, the mandatory commenting is not going to be applied. This may change in the future.
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Ok, fine but on what basis downvoted.? we should know, right. Then only we can try to avoid those mistakes.
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Mark this post as answer if it helps you!!!
Regards
Naveen Sanagasetti
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Sometimes people just downvote because they can. It's called trolling. Adding a textbox isn't going to fix that - other than them creating a fake account and entering rubbish in the box.
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Thanks for your suggestion.
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Mark this post as answer if it helps you!!!
Regards
Naveen Sanagasetti
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I have an idea...
Instead of forcing a comment, have a check list of standard reasons, like so:
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Check all that apply (you must select at least one):<br />
[ ] Technically incorrect<br />
[ ] Insufficient content<br />
[ ] Formatting issues<br />
[ ] No downloadable file<br />
[ ] Missing images<br />
[ ] Article is not in English<br />
[ ] Your attempt at English is comical<br />
[ ] I don't like your name<br />
[ ] I don't like your attitude<br />
[ ] I'm a low-rep down-voting prick<br />
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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 Worth a 5 just for the last one.
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One of my fears in life is you'll grow mellow with age, John.
Never let that happen.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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At this point, I don't think that's even possible.
However some would say I have because the last item didn't include the work "f*ckin'" (mellowed for our overly sensitive audience that are worried about whether their next set of man panties should be yellow or pink and include a little lace").
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I just realized that I might be more Australian than you.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 7-Oct-15 14:44pm.
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