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Well, I work on a dual almost-gigahertz here at work. And I am happy with the turnover times for compiling.
That is what I meant: It is nice to have a faster computer, but there is no longer a NEED to have it - at least at work. 3D-Games are different, both in usang and in writing/testing(I think).
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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You're right of course... but I still want my PC to be as fast as possible. I'm an extremely demanding user... and I work so much that there's a blur between the line or work and play for me. My main development machine is often also my main gaming machine. To keep things moving forward at work, we sometimes break for 30 minutes or so to play some Battlefield 1942 or Unreal Tournament 2003.. etc. But, in general, you're right.
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Wow - playing at work. Here we have even "solitaire" uninstalled from our devel-computers. But then we have open Internet (and CP is out there).
At home, the most demanding game I have right now is Medieval:TotalWar.
And I still love Civilisation III. But maybe I am some sort of geek with this.;)
Ok, this was enough "Lounge-talk" for today!
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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It will be the job of we programmers to create code so slow, bloated, and clunky that the extra speed will become essential. Get to work!
"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art."
Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Stan Shannon wrote:
It will be the job of we programmers to create code so slow, bloated, and clunky that the extra speed will become essential. Get to work!
That is easy enough to do, just write Thick Clients in Java using Swing <grin>
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....Dell or another PC manuf. company actually read the Optional Answer list. We would get a mother of a PC....
Dual 21" monitors, DVD-RWs, Tail Fins, quad processors, a cpu discombobulator, built-in coffee cup holder, Big Breasted Blonde Bimbos Begging for Boffing By Bodacious Boners and a Shiny Case
Plus along with free delivery you'd get a free blowjob and free sex from someone elses mom......
"Where would you rather be today?"
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Could you imagine explaining the need for such a computer to your wife?
"Dear, you might want to leave the house today, maybe go shopping."
"Why honey?"
"Uhhhh...big computer delivery, yeah, thats it..."
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!
Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
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Well, my previous computer was a P3-800Mhz running Win2K, with 512MB RAM, 240 GB of disk space and a 19'' monitor. I've used that to develop web apps (ASP.NET/VB.NET), all kinds of Win apps (whether single or multi threaded, database frontends, network apps, CGIs, Fast CGIs, hardware control apps for card embossers and check printers - all using VB.NET, VB6 and Delphi 3), ASP and HTML sites, and finally to open telnet sessions to a Stratus box running VOS to develop using C, PL/I and COBOL (yeah, the real dinosaurs).
I bought a new one a few weeks ago (P4-2.4 Ghz, 1GB RAM, RAID controller, 0.3 TB disk space , kept the same monitor and Win2K). However, I have to admit that I could get my job done pretty well with my old PC, plus I could run Counter Strike and TFC perfectly. I got the new one just to satisfy my geek factor.
One thing that I found out over the years is that it's ok to have the fastest/best PC around to do your development (whether "best" means a fast or dual CPU, lightning-fast hard disk I/O and 21'' or dual monitors - it all depends on what you're working on)...BUT at some point you really need to test on the actual PC or range of machines that your application is going to be used on in the real world.
For example, your spec might be for an application that will read a proprietary flat file 2GB large and create an excel spreadsheet out of it along with an HTML report page, and all that is going to run on Bank X (where you know that they'll install it in a PII-400 box). In this case, I doesn't really mater if your app takes 30 second to finish on your dev box if it takes half an hour on the production box (in this case, you may have to go back to the code and make a better algorithm that will work decently on real-world PC's - unless of course you have already put in the extra effort to do that). Also, it doesn't matter if your HTML report looks really cool on your screen with 1600x1200 analysis displayed by Internet Explorer, because some poor chaps at the customer's site are going to view it under 640x480 or 800x600, using both IE and NetScape.
To summarize: yes, as far as developers are concerned, the fastest a PC is, the better. We just need to recognize the geek factor inside ourselves and appreciate the fact that sometimes we can do the job without a P-7 35Ghz box. And IMHO it's also important to be aware of the capabilities of most hardware used in the real world.
Cheers,
NTG
"Feel the force...read the source"
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Sincerely
AW
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They already are. Gimme an algorithm that will automatically group and sort free text entries based on the meaning of the entry (and not it's spelling) and I'll add it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I often wish that the entries people add in manually would be added as a drop down list that other people could choose from to minimalize the repeat-answers, yet still allows you to add to the list if yours is not there.
Just a thought.
: Dean 'Karnatos' Michaud
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Excellent idea, except when David Wulff and John Simons start getting into the act
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Without us, you'd be lost...
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Simple solution. Add a call to a function 'RunGoodCode()', then, in a few years, microsoft may write a function called 'RunGoodCode()' that may in some distant parallel universe will do just this.
Note: This depends on the code not being written in VB as RunGoodCode would not be a relevent name for the function. Also, the current MS management restricts the amount of Good Code released, so you will have to wait for or cause management re-structure.
"Where would you rather be today?"
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<sarcasm&rt;
Don't be a pussy. All that's needed is a fair bit of AI, a spell checker, and you're done. :P
</sarcasm&rt;
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer.
- Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael
P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not
as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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You may use a drop-down-list to choose from written answers or - group with deleting white spaces, punctuation marks and changing case to lower.
Sorry
AW
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Most people wanting a burning device, that would be interesting whether they would choose the good old cd-burner or the new hot dvd-burners.
Try this @ home. (B&B)
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OK - 'fess up.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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c'mon, you know you want them...
---
Shog9
The siren sings a lonely song - of all the wants and hungers
The lust of love a brute desire - the ledge of life goes under
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Shog9 wrote:
c'mon, you know you want them...
lol
Regards,
Brian Dela
Run naked in the snow until you're sweating like a stuck pig and can't seem to catch your breath. When the flu becomes pneumonia, they can cure that with a shot. - Roger Wright
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You ask about that but not:
"Big Breasted Blonde Bimbos Begging for Boffing By Bodacious Boners" ?
Sheesh Chris, I expected more...
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!
Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!
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I don't want to encourage some of the inmates
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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