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I think that all of us can write stupid software using every language... I'm using Delphi, Java, Pascal, VB, VB.NET and C#. So I think that language is not important for good programmer 
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Agree
Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio
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While we officially standardized on C#, in practice we use it only sporadically. Our C++ code base is so big that it is all but impossible to switch to C#. Therefore, we end up writing Managed C++ wrappers to enable our C++ code to work with .NET. 
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Same here, but I leaving my job in a few months to work on a project entirely written in C# using MS SQL Server 2000 as the back end - can't wait at least I'll have the neccessary training and with over 12 years windows programming experience it should keep in a job for a while!
I am that is
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Nemanja Trifunovic, this is very true. I have not learned C# yet, (love C++ to much still), but I have done development in VB .NET. I still prefer C++, and Managed C++ is not bad at all. (although its slower)
There is still alot of native C++ code floating around, so companies wont be able to migrate everything for a long time.
I still enjoy MFC C++ applications alot.
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Thank you C# for getting me my life back from documentation hell.
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Might I also add NUnit? It's changed the way development is done in these parts (and many others, I'd guess).
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Herb Warren
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We still have to support Windows 95 in many cases, and AFAIK .NET apps won't even run on 95.
We also have issues when customers download our stuff, even though Microsoft thinks that cusomters won't mind a 20 meg download, many of our customers will certainly complain.
Internally, though, there's a prototyping team that uses it. It would not be unheard of for us to use some C# or something for some internal web apps, too, but who knows.
No single raindrop believes that it is responsible for the flood.
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Still supporting Windows 95? im guessing your at a banking company or Financial company? I noticed they usually still support alot of older operating systems.
Anyhow, even if your company doesnt use .NET I would suggest you start learning it on the side.
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Oh, that same company did pay for an on-site C# class. Regardless of whether we ever use .NET for anything or not, knowledge is power. 
No single raindrop believes that it is responsible for the flood.
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Most financial companies use NT.. they have to for security reasons, and while some still have NT4 I don't think I've come across any bank larger than 10 people who would even consider having W95 installed on a PC.
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Not that I use it, but just to be fair (as there isn't an option of typing your own option). There are also .NET languages not developed by Microsoft as well (like Fujitsu COBOL.NET[^])
--Colin Mackay--
"In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins - not through strength but perseverance." (H. Jackson Brown)
Enumerators in .NET: See how to customise foreach loops with C#
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I think that is what the Other option is for. Otherwise Chris would have had to list all 20+ .NET languages (Fortran, COBOL, J# etc. etc. etc.)
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
South Africa
Brian Welsch wrote:
"blah blah blah, maybe a potato?" while translating my Afrikaans.
Crikey! ain't life grand?
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 Obviously! 
--Colin Mackay--
"In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins - not through strength but perseverance." (H. Jackson Brown)
Enumerators in .NET: See how to customise foreach loops with C#
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I'm the only coder and my boss wouldn't know the difference anyway so I'm not sure if you could call it a standard, but it's C# for me. The case-sensitivity helps with my lack of creativity in thinking of local variable names.
Charlie
Here I am. Love me.
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Me the first one to cast the vote 
Me voted for VB .NET, not coz we love VB (infact we do a bit) but it is coz the C# editor of VS .NET is not that much cool as compared to the VB one. I mean in C# we have to type case-sensative variable names and intellisense is not that much intelligent. Anyway, being C Person, I still, whenever get chance, write code in C#. C Rules!
mE
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fadee wrote:
Me the first one to cast the vote
Congratulations.
fadee wrote:
coz the C# editor of VS .NET is not that much cool ... in C# we have to type case-sensative variable names
I think that is because C# (like C and C++) has case sensitive variable names rather than the editor being uncool.
--Colin Mackay--
"In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins - not through strength but perseverance." (H. Jackson Brown)
Enumerators in .NET: See how to customise foreach loops with C#
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amen.
A student knows little about a lot.
A professor knows a lot about little.
I know everything about nothing.
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Yup but you have noticed that VB .NET is also kind of case sensative?
Consider
dim DBEnumValue as Integer
Now whatever you type (e.g. dbeNUMvALUE) it will automatically be converted into correct case, I mean the one in which it was declared.
Can't MS ppl impart such kind of facility in C# editor... I mean for me, it would be a blessing
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fadee wrote:
Can't MS ppl impart such kind of facility in C# editor
No. Because C# is case SENSITIVE. Therefore myVariable is not the same as MyVariable unlike VB where they do mean the same thing regardless of what the editor does.
--Colin Mackay--
"In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins - not through strength but perseverance." (H. Jackson Brown)
Enumerators in .NET: See how to customise foreach loops with C#
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Michael P Butler wrote:
And with that sentence, you have just shown why VB programmers have such a bad reputation amongst C++ developers.
yeah... but you know, I know a thing; no-matter-what-sophisticated evironment or tool I use... but whenever I open the blue environment of Turbo C++ 3.0 - boy I remember the day when I got into university; and start feeling at home - C syntax is kind of mother language syntax... Wowee... boy... Mother Language Syntax... what a term
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fadee wrote:
Wowee... boy... Mother Language Syntax... what a term
Do you have any more of that stuff you're on left over for the rest of us?
- Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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what you think?
ha ha ha... what about sharing yours? 
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reputation??
What are you talking about?
I do NOT thik VBer has any reputation!![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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