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Amarnath S wrote: sad to see the CEO of Oceangate, can feel his passion towards his mission.
CEO was a crook. Charging lots of money knowing his vessel was unsafe. He cut a lot of corners in safety, apparently.
Most of the submersible community questioned the CEO's tactics, methods, and overall design of Titan.
Most believe that the final verdict will show that the carbon fiber shell suffered from cyclic fatigue, causing the catastrophic implosion.
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Slacker007 wrote: crook
Either that, or too naive about deep sea engineering design.
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I think crook will be the final verdict. One of the designers quit when the CEO overrode the portal design for one that was rated to 1300 meters vs. the 12,000 meters needed.
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He was told repeatedly that there are severe problems with the design of the sub and he either fired or cut ties with every single person who pointed this stuff out.
This was profit above all else.
This was "gross negligence".
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Considering he was trying to make a political statement rather than listen to the pros, he's probably both.
Like seriously, I'm a scuba diver. Which equates to rookie, n00b, nobody roughly. And even I know the second you start ignoring common sense that deep... well, the rest is history.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: And even I know the second you start ignoring common sense that deep... well, the rest is history.
That's because you don't have enough money. 🫠
Neither did the CEO.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like seriously, I'm a scuba diver. Which equates to rookie, n00b, nobody roughly. And even I know the second you start ignoring common sense that deep... well, the rest is history.
I have never dived deeper than 3 meters in a pool using my own lungs, and even I know that.
Even more... it doesn't matter in which direction (up or down) you do it, in the moment you keep off see level for a couple of hundred meters... an error is deadly
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah that’s a good point. Even the bottom of the deep end of a pool has a bit of pressure. You can feel it.
Jeremy Falcon
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In my company, "management" are sometimes trying to bend physics laws with money.
So far, this never ended well : turns out you cannot corrupt physics that easily, no matter the amount.
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The laws of physics are like the word of god, if you want to be religious about it. Try to break them or wiggle around them and see where it gets you. But yes, there are those who always think to be smarter than everyone else. Actually, when they wave around with money to convince you of that, it's about the most pleasant way to interact with them. Some have much more painful ways to demonstrate their superior intelligence.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: ... smarter than everyone else. Actually, when they wave around with money to convince you of that, it's about the most pleasant way to interact with them.
If anyone believes that they are smarter than everyone else and wishes to give me a large sum of money so that I'll believe that, too - I'll take it!
(But the attempt to persuade me with money shows that they're not so smart.  )
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Aww, come on, I have enough outlandish ideas. So, how much? 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Dr. Evil: 1 million dollars
Daniel Pfeffer: <sucks on little finger>one BILLION DOLLARS!</sucks on little finger>
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: But the attempt to persuade me with money shows that they're not so smart.
What about Dogecoin?
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: What about Dogecoin?
That's for the birds!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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xkcd: Universe Price Tiers
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Quote: As Disaster Area's earnings require hypermathematics, their chief research accountant was named Professor of Neomathematics at the University of Maximegalon and in his Special Theories of Tax Returns he proves that space-time is "not merely curved, it is, in fact, totally bent."
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Slacker007 wrote: CEO was a crook.
Crook to me implies intent.
To me he was just deluded. He really believed in his own nonsense.
A real crook would have never have gotten into that sub.
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jschell wrote: To me he was just deluded. He really believed in his own nonsense.
The epitome of drinking the Kool-Aid! I even have the Kool-Aid recipe:
- surround yourself with yes-men and sycophants
- fire everyone who disagrees with you
- fake it till you make it.
Not surprising, that works pretty well also in the political arena.
Mircea
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He was definitely passionate about trying to get people to "sign up". People weren't approaching him ... he was chasing them down.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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No one was forced to go (except maybe the Pakistani son).
All chose and paid.
It appears carbon fiber material are/or cannot be tested for flaws and wear
the same way metal hulls can.
Sad.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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