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The start button is there. An important feature as far as I'm concerned would be docking the task bar to a side of the screen, that's still missing.
I get the occasional AMD fTPM hiccups, waiting for the announced fix.
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I'm using it, and the Start menu is a vast improvement over the horror that was Windows 10. It's actually genuinely useful, and all those ridiculous tiles are gone.
It's still a bit buggy though. My pet peeves are:
- when you click on the icon for a running app in the taskbar, it doesn't (usually) come to the front (this is really annoying)
- when you launch an application, is sometimes doesn't come to the front (less annoying, but weird; related?)
Other than that, it's fine. I do resent the fact that I had to buy (well, build) a new machine to run it though. Probably I could have snuck round that, but it didn't seem worth it. I don't want my primary development machine suddenly saying "shalln't" because MS have decided to pull the plug.
Paul Sanders
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
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Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote: Other than that, it's fine. I do resent the fact that I had to buy (well, build) a new machine to run it though. Probably I could have snuck round that, but it didn't seem worth it. I don't want my primary development machine suddenly saying "shalln't" because MS have decided to pull the plug.
Why did you switch to Win11? Was there a pressing need?
When Win11 was released my desktop was 8 yo and my laptop 6 yo. Switching to Win11 was not an option, as I saw no point in buying new h/w to run an O/S that I didn't have a pressing need for. A few months back my desktop exhibited memory errors, and given the age, I replaced the MB, CPU, and RAM, and re-installed Win10. Once I replace the laptop (which may be sooner than I want) I'll consider Win11, depending on the state of Win11 at that time.
At this point, Win11 seems like hassles without benefit, so it's very likely I'll stay on Win10 until that changes, or until Win10 goes out of support.
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Not really, no, but quite a few of my customers are switching over so I though I should be able to experience what they experience (I had it installed in a VM, but that's not the same as using it day in, day out).
But you're right, you're not missing out on anything important. And if, like me, you have a pathological hatred of the Windows 10 start menu, there's always Start10.
Paul Sanders
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk
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new company laptop, so yes.
Most hated part (because company laptop and although I could edit regisity, I'm resisting not do so)
is no un-group task bar applications
multiple broowser windows,
multiple Visual Studio instances
multiple windows explorer
multiple excel windows
i dont want to hover over to tab to switch window.
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while im ranting
that the default taskbar is to middle
I understand is beneficial from a Touch first design, but from mouse ui, and placement memory is bad.
open new app, it shifts all the task bar items.
Yes, Mac got away with it for decades, doenst mean shifting where app is for design sakes is good for user
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This is all an "In my Opinion". Take it with a pinch of salt.
I didn't like it.
The new explorer context menu might look nice, but 95% of the options that I (as a developer) use are hidden behind the "show extras" link (or whatever it was called). This means that most of the time I use the file explorer, everything I do with it requires an extra click.
It's incompatible with VMWare Workstation. I extensively use VMs on a day to day basis. The only way of getting it to work is to back off the number of cores to 1. All of my VMs use Chrome. Has anyone tried using Chrome on a single core? It's not pretty! The "fix" is to pay for an upgrade to VMWare.
At this point, I rolled back to Windows 10, and I'm not intending to upgrade, until they fix at least those issues.
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Quote: It's incompatible with VMWare Workstation
Is it MS or is it really VMWare to blame?
We couldn't use VMWare with or without HyperV enabled in Windows 10 for quite a while. So long in fact, that I started using HyperV and uninstalled VMWare, then you could disable it and run VMWare after some patches, but I needed HyperV for javascript development so it wasn't one or the other that I needed! Eventually it was fixed again, and I did reinstall, as I had to resume using VMWare occasionally for older release Siemens PLC development.
It's not like Win 10 or Win 11 just poofed and surprised VMWare, they should have been working to get the issues resolved during the RC phases.
The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
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It works very well for me.
No issues so far.
Only one annoying thing: if you right click a start menu icon it does not show the last opened documents in that application, you will have to open it first and then open your file.
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The revamped Settings control is simply gorgeous. In light of its obvious ability to take ever-expanding setting complexity and not lose any level of computer user in the process, there is no doubt in my mind that the drop-down slide-off non-scalable menu control has no place in future GUIs. Are you listening Visual Studio?
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Is there something missing with Windows 10? I wouldn't upgrade if there isn't. Just wait until you have to by a new computer that comes with Windows 11.
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More mature WSL - it is important for me
Nick Polyak
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I asked myself the same question the other day and was even ready to do a clean install of Win11 but decided it wasn't worth it. I have yet to hear anything compelling that would make we want to switch. To me, all of the changes are for "regular" users, not "power" users. I suspect I would just find it annoying. So I decided I won't switch until MS decides it's no longer a free upgrade. I realize I'll have to switch sometime but not till they make me.
BTW - I figured I'd do a clean install rather than "upgrading" from Win10. Any opinions on that?
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Seems ok, apart from issue with task bars on multiple screens.
And an emails not being sent which appears to be fixed.
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MS has link to free Win11 VM images so you can "try" win11 and current dev tools. Its Win11 Enterprise edition.. The trial images I believe are still available and activated for another couple weeks. The had extended the trial period to May.
Actually had a project that used some legacy OLE functionality that required the old Paint which we found was wacky 10 to 11 upgrades and didnt work at all with clean install of 11. That trial image saved us a ton of time testing as well as establish that our dev team was not ready to make the switch just yet.
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Since I'm on SSI, not by me unless someone wants to donate a new PC that 11 will work on.
( presently a Dell XPS 8900... mobo only handles up to i7-6700 cpu ) 
modified 22-Apr-22 9:21am.
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If you're new to the blues, or you like it but never really understood the whys and wherefores, here are some very fundamental rules:
- Most Blues begin with: "Woke up this morning..."
- "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, unless you stick something nasty in the next line like, "I got a good woman, with the meanest face in town."
- The blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it. Then, find something that rhymes -- sort of:
Got a good woman with the meanest face in town.
Yes, I got a good woman with the meanest face in town.
Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher and she weigh 500 pound."
- The blues is not about choice. "You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a ditch...ain't no way out."
- Blues cars: Chevys, Fords, Cadillacs, and broken-down trucks. Blues don't travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Jet aircraft and state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running. Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die.
- Teenagers can't sing the blues. They ain't fixin' to die yet. Adults sing the blues. In blues, "adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.
- Blues can take place in New York City, but not in Hawaii or anywhere in Canada. Hard times in Minneapolis or Seattle are probably just clinical depression. Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, Memphis, and N'awlins are still the best places to have the blues. You cannot have the blues in any place that don't get rain.
- A man with male pattern baldness ain't the blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg 'cause you were skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg 'cause a alligator be chomping on it is.
- You can't have no blues in an office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.
- Good places for the Blues:
a. highway,
b. jailhouse,
c. empty bed,
d. bottom of a whiskey glass.
- Bad places for the blues:
a. Nordstrom's,
b. gallery openings,
c. Ivy League institutions,
d. golf courses.
- No one will believe it's the blues if you wear a suit, less you happen to be an old person, and you slept in it.
- Do you have the right to sing the blues?
Yes, if:
a. you're older than dirt,
b. you're blind,
c. you shot a man in Memphis,
d. you can't be satisfied.
No, if:
a. you have all your teeth,
b. you were once blind but now can see,
c. the man in Memphis lived,
d. you have a 401 K or trust fund.
- Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Sonny Liston could have. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the Blues.
- If you ask for water and your darlin' gives you gasoline, it's the blues. Other acceptable blues beverages are:
a. cheap wine,
b. whiskey or bourbon,
c. muddy water,
d. black coffee.
The following are NOT Blues beverages:
a. Perrier,
b. Chardonnay,
c. Snapple,
d. Slim Fast.
- If death occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another blues way to die. So are the electric chair, substance abuse, and dying lonely on a broken-down cot. You can't have a blues death if you die during a tennis match or while getting liposuction.
- Some Blues names for women:
a. Sadie,
b. Big Mama,
c. Bessie,
d. Jennie.
- Some Blues names for men:
a. Joe,
b. Willie,
c. Little Willie,
d. Big Willie.
- Persons with names like Michelle, Amber, Jennifer, Debbie, and Heather can't sing the blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.
- Blues Name Starter Kit:
a. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.),
b. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Peach, etc.),
c. last name of an earlier US President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.).
For example: Blind Lemon Jefferson, Pegleg Lime Johnson, or Cripple Peach Fillmore, etc.
- I don't care how tragic your life is; if you own a computer /smartphone and are on Facebook, you cannot sing the blues, period.
/ravi
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Classic!
I wonder if BB slept in his suit? 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I do like the no.19.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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I expect you also can't have dog with a breed that ends in "...oodle"
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Not only that, but if you have a dog it needs to be blind in one eye.
/ravi
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Maybe, if they have 3 legs, are blind in one eye, and have been shot in Memphis.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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You know what the tombstone of the blues singer said?
"Didn't wake up this morning ..."
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#19 made me laugh out loud. I might add weirdly spelled names like "Saydee" or "La-a" (pronounced Ladasha, the "-" isn't silent).
Hmmm, I own a computer AND a smart phone, but I'm not on Facebook. Does CP count against me? Oh wait, never mind, I'm from Minneapolis, it's only minor depression.
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: You cannot have the blues in any place that don't get rain.
Ain't dat the trut'. (He said from Phoenix)
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