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Rage23-Mar-22 1:57
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Kirk 1038982124-Mar-22 6:42
Kirk 1038982124-Mar-22 6:42 
I have a psychological answer for you...

It's a phenomena I noticed decades ago...
All People uses core senses (Visual (think geeks), Kinesthetic (think jocks), Auditory (think rockers))
Now, everyone possesses ALL 3 of these, but USUALLY 1 is primary.
In Synesthesia, these are actually mixed (specific numbers associate with specific colors, etc).

In MUSICIANS, these are STRONGLY Blended.

So, the challenge is this. Visual (and Hyper Visual) people can process and IGNORE visual input quickly/easily.
But Kinesthetic and Auditory people are not as good as this (Although, Auditory people can hear a piece of music, and ISOLATE
just the FLUTE, incredibly easily... I have a friend, he can focus on, and literally only hear that instrument. Crazy. It's a BLUR to my ears. LOL)

Therefore, complex screens with too many items OVERWHELM about 2/3rds of the people looking at them!
Even Visual People, the first time, have to learn to "CHUNK" the screens of information, and apply "selective attention".
which they readily and easily do.

So, envisioning a world, where the number of items you can interact with is MINIMIZED Helps to NOT Overwhelm the majority of users.
At the expense of those of us (usually programmers, LOL), that prefer to see it all...

Again, I ended up learning about this, because I found a GROUP of people who HATED some "Great" software I had written. Now, all the users who were like me (visual), LOVED the software. The strong love/hate confused the heck out of me. But that's when I noticed the Haters were a mashup of people who spoke a bit slower, some where really physical (gym rats, or skate boarders)...

My research led me to understand these groups better. I made some MODEST changes to the software to reduce the Visual Intensity/Complexity of the screen... And the HATERS slowly converted...

And I became better at writing software for ALL types of users...

That said. At no POINT in my WILDEST Imagination, did I think "use Time/Space in such a way that the mouse position, or the angle to their eyeballs should be used in what I display on screen"...

I TRULY HATE these things going away. The HIDING SCROLLBAR... yeah, I get it, it just takes up space, but I simply cannot see it unless my mouse hits it, and it's really hard to tell a user to click on something they cannot see!

[In many new programs, I will hit the ALT key, just to see if the Menu Activates, so I can more easily direct users]
I think that was the first example of "Hiding Things until needing them". But I could be wrong.

So, I believe THIS is why they are doing it. Based on some research papers and non-computer user feedback, etc. etc.

And I still have issues with this approach. They should at least have a KEY you hit that brings them all back, so we can all TALK about the same screen.

This is why it is easier for me to jump into a RemoteControl session and just deal with it. Yep, even to my Wifes Computer 2 rooms away... LOL

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