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honey the codewitch wrote: I have a Ryzen 7 4560G
What's that? Ryzen 7 would be 47XX, and very few Ryzen 4-digit codes end in 60 (there is a 3960X but you don't have that). Maybe a Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G? Or Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G?
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harold aptroot wrote: What's that?
It's me getting the number wrong like I do. every. single. time. 
It's a Ryzen 7 4750G
I'll fix the comment
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Did you self-assemble your machine or bought it from one of the reputable brands like Dell?
I cannot find any reputable brand that sells AMD consumer PC.
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I bought the base system from a company who sells off of Amazon. The brand is "CUK" (stands for Computer Upgrade King)
The only major problem I had with them is secondary HDD was jammed into the case such that the mounting rails are jammed and I can't remove the drive. For now I don't care, even though it was frustrating. I would have sent it back but I couldn't afford the downtime.
However, given the nature of the problem - it was an assembly problem and not a manufacturing problem, I would buy from them again. Their computers consistently get good reviews on amazon, and they use good parts. It's an asus motherboard, for example
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In Germany there are a couple of online shoprs that let you configure the PC as you want and offer almost everything (another thing is if they are now available or not).
There are two that work with the most known tech / computer magazines here and offer a "recommended" PC from the magazines using the hardware winners in all the benchmarks they have done the last year.
My next machine will be similar to the second best of those recommendations, changing a couple of things.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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It seems this year AMD is the way to go...
I have been trying to get a Thinkpad T14s with AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U Processor since start of last September, but no stock, at least here in Spain. They have even been retired from their web page...
Till this Friday night, when the T14s came back to the web page! YAY! Immediately sent a mail to my Lenovo contact at my distributor... let's see what will happen...
Crossing fingers...
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Good luck. I've got the G version of that APU and I *love* it.
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Joan M wrote: but no stock, at least here in Spain.
Not only Spain.
That is the biggest reason why I didn't bought my new PC yet. The second one...after all this time, depending on when the hardware I will get available, waiting a bit more then might be a big difference in the price too.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Some of us have known this for a couple of years, or at least ever since Ryzen came out.
I have 2 Threadrippers (1950X and 3970X) and an Epyc 7702P. No APU but damn sure twice the processor Intel offers (with ECC) at half the cost of Intel.
But if your fans aren't even speeding up you're not working your machines very hard 
What has impressed me even more is the power consumption which has plummeted in Ryzen/Epyc while performance has increased.
The only complaint I have is PCIe4 chipset (on the 3970X box) requiring one of those little whiny fans. It isn't loud but it is noticeable.
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I have nothing but love for this APU. My only regret is I couldn't wait for the launch prices to come down to get something even newer, but my APU is still the 3rd fastest CPU/APU on the benchmark site i checked. Woo! I didn't pay that much for this machine.
The fact that it will play fallout 4 on ultra, with the high res texture pack, and with no video card is just amazing to me. I'm not even really a gamer (except i play fallout periodically) but I know enough to respect the kind of processing power that makes something like that possible.
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Mine is Helium - I can't speak highly enough of it!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
modified 23-Jan-21 11:06am.
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When will the "politically correct" crew get it renamed to Theylium?
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Booooron!
Caesium and Barium!
(But don't Sodium - we need no more puns like that!)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Ironically I have not a favourite one. 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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It's hard to Tellurium. I've heard super things about Krypton but I Xenon of the other's posted about this. Furthermore, there was that song, On the Rhodium, which seemed popular, too.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: there was that song, On the Rhodium
Country Rhodiuuuuuum, take me Nihoniuuuum!
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The element of surprise.
I'd rather be phishing!
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No one expects the unexpected.
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Boy, if I had a Nickle for every bad pun...
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I'll go with Neil deGrasse Tyson on this - "Other".
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My formal answer would be Hellodrogen. But I prefer to keep it light!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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