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I wasn't sure if that subject was a pun (because the ribbon is literally right at the top, get it?) 
Don't share your hate though.
It's just a menu bar with buttons for the things I supposedly use the most.
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It's a menu bar that is 30mm tall (on this Surface) and shows maybe a dozen things. Compare that with a toolbar in VS: 5mm high, 5mm wide per button - so my precious screen real estate isn't covered, and I can get dozens of functions on there. If I need to find something I don't recognise the picture for, I can mouse hover for a tooltip. Why force us to waste space I could use for reading the actual message? 
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When an option literally becomes invisible if your screen size isn't wide enough, yes, I hate it. I'm not talking about the last menu item disappearing. I'm talking about sh*t in the middle. F'ing pisses me off. The old menus were always at the same position, but not these damn things.
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I guess I'm always on a big screen
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Hi! My name is clippy. I see you are trying to mess around with my ribbon. If you keep that up, you will go blind.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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*gigglesnort*
Real programmers use butterflies
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The Ribbon inventor was traumatised by the tool bar from hell!
And was trying to improve the concept! ^_^
Toolbar from Hell
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I love the ribbon.
But if you don't like it, you can use the "Ribbon Display Options" button in the top right (near the Minimize button) to bring up different options, including hiding the ribbon altogether and showing only the tabs.
Cheers,
विक्रम
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Now it's not like I've not honked this horn, before, but I just had to give an example that I've been see for a couple of years now and, to emphasize my point, had to share.
The epidemic of proud ignorance has reached a level that is just a shock to the system.
To wit - examples for a supermarket chain's weekly add:
KRAFT CHEESE SHREDS - 2 for $4 - that's just $2 each!
CHOBANI GREEK YOGURT - 5 for $5 - that's just $1 each !
These are spread throughout this circular[^]
I suppose, within a generation, they'll have to have something like:
POLLY-O MOZZARELLA - $2.50 - that's just $2.50 each!
You know how bad it really is? When the composed the circular they used a calculator.
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It could be worse: Stupid supermarket special offers[^]
Buy 1 for £1, or 2 for £4!
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When I was a wee lad I used to read every label and do all sorts of head math - just some little kids amusement thing. No big deal in and of itself.
But I noticed at a very early age that, at the time, buying DelMonte Tomato Sauce in 8oz cans was cheaper than buying it in large sizes. I've still seen these super-large-industrial-size cans of food that are more expensive than buying it in smaller cans.
Yours, one hopes, is a typo - but there's an old vaudeville=esqe line about making change of paper money: "Hey buddy, you got two tens for a five?"
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Bring back pounds, shillings and pence (LSD). That will teach everyone how to do mental arithmetic.
For those younger than me (i.e. all of you), or from somewhere outside the UK, this was UK currency pre-decimalisation.
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When last I was in England, it was just at the transition time. I received a 6p coin in my change and thought I had touch of luck (cuppa was 3p, B&B in St John's Wood: £1/night, then).
No luck - they all knew the math to convert from pence to new-pence.
Something like 1972, no?
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Probably; we actually switched to decimal in February 1971. Oh, and you did not get a 6p coin, as there was no such thing. What you got was a 'tanner' which was 6d: the d stands for denarius, from the original Latin titles of our currency.
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My appearance was June or so, 1972. Back when the UK pound was worth about $5.
Not correcting, but inquiring, didn't they refer to the smallest denominations as pence, like t'pence. At least they did in Mary Poppins - which I consider an unimpeachable authority. Anyway, at least you didn't get involved in the Euro.
Well, back to the sidelines as I watch the swirling race to the bottom.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: didn't they refer to the smallest denominations as pence, like t'pence. At least they did in Mary Poppins
That was tuppence - two pence. Not the smallest denomination, but twice of that.
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I was in a business meeting with a FinTech company around 2010, discussing a system that calculated insurance premiums, resulting in odd pennies instead of nice "round" numbers. I made the grave mistake of referring to a figure of £1.03 as "a pound and thruppence". The meeting was adjourned whilst the younger delegates wiped their eyes and picked themselves up off the floor. 
I have given up referring to a 5p as a "shilling" but do still think in terms of "tuppence", "thruppence". I find that if I'm shocked at the price of something (like a chocolate bar), it's because I've mentally converted it into shillings. I used to get a shilling a week pocket money (5p) through much of 70s, but that meant I could buy a simple Airfix kit every three weeks, and have change for a Mars bar the fourth...
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: Back when the UK pound was worth about $5
If only. AFAIRC it stood at around $2.40 in 1971, and I don't think it ever got higher.
Yes, we did call the small currency pence, but still used the d suffix in written form. Most confusing to foreigners but natural to thos of us who grew uo in the 60's and earlier. 2d was twopence (pronounced 'tuppence'), 3d threepence (pronounced 'thruppence'). Then there were the odd names for other denominations: a tanner - 6d, a bob - 12d, which was a shilling, etc.
As to the Euro, it was supposed to bring stability, but I believe it has done more harm than good. But then I am a reactionary old gammon.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: As to the Euro, it was supposed to bring stability, but I believe it has done more harm than good.
The idea was a good one, if the goal is a United States of Europe. No modern state manages with the hodgepodge of currencies, fiscal policies, etc. that used to exist in the EEC. The problem is that an EU-wide currency was introduced without an EU-wide body in charge of fiscal policy, including an EU-wide research organization. This allowed certain countries to fudge the data so that they would be allowed into the Euro zone, and continue fudging the data until their bankruptcy was manifest.
Naturally, expecting previously-independent countries to allow external fiscal researchers (AKA snoops) into their innermost sanctum was a bit too much to expect.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Very true. The politicians and bureaucrats were so keen to expand the EU that they admitted countries that they knew could never match the strict criteria that were applied when the UK was joining.
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Well, according to this[^] . . . wait for it . . . almost there . . . you are right!
My excuse (actually likely correct, but it was a while ago) is that I probably confused it with that "Europe on $5 a Day" concept running around. Our biblical tome was "Let's Go Europe" and ISSTA was our travel agent (except to/from NYC/Luxemburg, via Icelandic Air, which was $165 round trip.
The other currancies were pretty low and it turned out that, lacking a job for the summer, it was cheaper to send me to Europe with my backpack than let me stay home. (DM, FF 1/4 and 1/5 dollar, respectively, at the time - I think).
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Part of the problem with the pound at that time was that we were still repaying our wartime loan to the US government. Had the pound really been worth $5.00 it would have been repaid much sooner than 2006. 
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...we (the UK) were one of the few countries to finally pay off this loan.
Lend-Lease was a political pay-off for FDR. It brought millions of dollars to the US allowing the Military-industrial complex to build huge amounts of stuff, have Britain pay for it, and yet keep the US out of the war for a couple of years. FDR stalled on real help against Hitler, stringing Churchill along until the Pearl Harbour attack brought the US into a war with Japan. Even then, it wasn't until several days later that Hitler declared war on the US, saving face for FDR who was actually still opposed to getting involved in a European war, and we all got on with defeating the most evil form of fascism the world had seen.
Curiously enough, although Lend-Lease was praised as "saving Britain" it only added about 1% overall to the weapons stash used by Britain to fight of the Nazis for a couple of years, basically alone but with real, massive help actually coming from the Commonwealth.
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Perhaps the price for each is quoted because sometimes you have to buy more than one to get the lower price, but that isn't the case here.
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Some stores do exactly what you say. This one, never.
Interestingly, I rarely buy things in the stores that try to force me to buy more than I want.
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