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The TrueProgrammerBraces Club is kind of toxic to be honest, and honey is a very special witch to me 
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You've made it to the Wise Programmer Club! [Insert D&D +1000HP (XP?) reference here. (I've never played D&D, so my nomenclature is probably wrong!)] Congrats on membership! 
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1000 HP is a huge amount that even the tanks can only dream of.
1000 XP is nice, although at my level I'll need a lot more.
I guess it also depends on the rules you use
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I missed so much codeproject SoapBox. It's one of the reason that I frequently visit the site.
Admin, Can you bring back Soapbox again? Do we need petition?
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
Paul Valery
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I don't think it would work: it was given a lot of leeway, a load of warnings, and it persisted as a sewer. It died: accept it, and move on. There are always site where you can troll, hurl personal abuse, swear, and defend ill-formed opinions* : reddit, twitter, and facebook spring to mind ...
* Not that yours would be any of those things, of course ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I was never here for it. But based on what I've heard and seen, I wouldn't want it back either.
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90% of the time was a pretty interesting place, where controversial topics could be discussed and I actually found some posts really interesting from time to time (and even learnt things I didn't know).
The biggest problem was that some threads were degenerating to flame wars, pretty personal and aggressive quite fast.
Some people never understood that only beacuse you can talk about the most controversial topics, there still is the need to keep respecting each other and try to not take it personal.
A couple of times when I was getting angry myself, I just shut down the browser, listen to some peaceful music and avoided it for a couple of hours... problem solved.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Quote: troll, hurl personal abuse, swear, and defend ill-formed opinions
In my entire membership time on CP, I don't think SoapbBox was only trolling,...
But there is always be a part that you need to say it, share it with other people, tech people ... There was always interesting subjects raised and discussed.
FB and Tw@tter people are not as such intelligent enough to say something that make me impressive, Beisde u need to follow them, who care ...
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
Paul Valery
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If one's opinions are not in line with Griff's then they become "ill formed" opinions.
Double standard at this site, always remember that. Double standard.
There will never be a Soapbox again. Get over it. Go to 4chan.org forum=pol if you want to banter without consequence. Be sure to wear a full body condom as 4chan.org is a portal to hell, and if you are not careful, it will eat you alive.
Cheers. 
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Slacker007 wrote: Double standard at this site, always remember that. Double standard.
This site never was a Democracy, or even a Constitutional Republic. It is an Oligarchy, with the site admins as the Oligarchs. A benevolent oligarchy, but an oligarchy all the same.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Slacker007 wrote: If one's opinions are not in line with Griff's then they become "ill formed" opinions.
Sorry but... Bullsh1t.
I don't agree with him or with many other people and have never had any problem or whatsoever you are implying.
The problem is not with everyone's opinions, the problem is how everyone share / defend them or argue / attack others.
The street is public too, but if you start shouting / saying some of the things that were running in the soapbox, you would end spending the night at a police station (and that having luck).
If you can't see that...
That said. I partially agree with Daniel's message answering you before me. CP has been, is and will always be a private site. It is very community oriented and tries to have nice sharing values / principles, but it is still a private site and runs a business behind it. And as every busines in the physical world, there is someone taking decissions and as that someone is a person, there will always be a certain influence or bias.
But in conclusion... I still find that Chris and all CP Staff do a damned good job at trying to run the site the most neutral and community oriented as possible.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 8-Nov-20 6:39am.
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If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Quote: Double standard at this site, always remember that. Double standard.
Put this crap standard to your family. It ain't work for me.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
Paul Valery
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Stephen Gonzalez wrote: In my entire membership time on CP, I don't think SoapbBox was only trolling,...
Not only, and I liked it too when it remained civilized.
But there was always that tiny stone that tiggered an avalanche / landslide of poisonouse personal wars.
There were a lot of warnings and even temporary bans, but it never lasted more than some weeks before it started again.
If people can't behave...
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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please no.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Being the kind of person who enjoys a good debate, I miss what the SoapBox was at its best. At its worst, it was just as bad as the sewers you find on other sites that shall remain nameless. I sympathise with the site operators' decision not to have an open sewer on their site.
Maintaining civility in the SoapBox would have required a strong moderator empowered to remove posts (and members) for unnecessary roughness, a cure worse IMO than the disease.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I would have at least made it an AI project: content classification. You have a huge training and testing sample set. Part of the classification was done for you (votes). Might have made a great stand-out article. Sponsors. Oh well.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Perhaps Chris still has the SoapBox stored on an isolated machine in the basement (next to the caustic cleaning materials  ). You can ask...
I doubt upvotes would help much in content classification. Some of the most vitriolic statements received upvote in admiration for the way the vitriol was employed. This did not mean that they were "nice" statements.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I don't know CP's "internals", but if a vote can be tied back to a "voter", that says a lot.
For instance, there are some places I will never be visiting again based on the "vote".
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Given that you can see the posts that you upvoted (in your reputation history), it is obvious that the site admins can do the same. I agree that opening this ability to the general public would be a serious breach of privacy.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Try https://www.ars-technica.com/[^]. It has a forum with few holds barred.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Yeah No
I like the idea of the freedom.
No Kid Sister a to worry about.
I only went there occasionally to read some crude jokes and have a laugh and enjoy them.
But it was a toxic place and the toxicity started to trickle out of there and project through to my favourite place on the internet.
That place is here in the lounge.
There is no place like the lounge.
Anywhere.
So best that it be gone.
Don't want to ruin or mess with the lounge.
I like that here I get to hear the valuable opinions and advice from people that I would probably hate in real life.
I don't want to give that up.
It is a freedom that I won't give up.
FES I still miss Dalek Dave and he was toxic but never threatened the lounge.
He just faded away. It was his choice. I didn't ever like him but I loved his posts.
Some people here though disappeared because of the soapbox as it started to be a bit of a bullybox.
I think that the community here is better off without it.
Still miss it a bit though.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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the Soapbox was essential if you needed to know which CP members were racist sacks of garbage.
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this post illustrates the double standard. Making derogatory comments about site members and nothing happening to OP.
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