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With all this covid, Weird ignorant politicians, protest etc the news has been very quiet on the outcome of Brexit. So without dividing into politics how has Brexit turned out so far for you?
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RossMW wrote: how has it all turned out so far for you?
What?
Covid? ignorant politicians? Protests? Brexit?...
I try to keep me up-to-date with info but I am trying really hard to not give a crap for it. I can't do anything about most of those topics, so... as my signature says...
Quote: If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Life gets easier when you learn to send some topics / people to hell.
M.D.V. 
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I was just being curious about the outcome of Brexit. Not asking anyone to fix anything.
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RossMW wrote: I was just being curious about the outcome of Brexit
Wasn't clear, sorry.
RossMW wrote: Not asking anyone to fix anything.
You sound like my wife 
And about the brexit... I don't have a clue. It might go well and it might be a disaster.
I do want to think that we all will survive it, but I do expect some hard times too on both sides of the coin.
And the rest of my opinion... would need a soapbox. So I end it here.
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Nelek wrote: And about the brexit... I don't have a clue.
Then don't respond to the original post.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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I... should... not.... answer...
breath deep
I... should... not... answer...
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Nelek wrote: Life gets easier when you learn to send some topics / people to hell.
Although I know where your coming from (a trite expression if ever there was one), basically, sticking their head in a hole doesn't protect an Ostrich from much of anything . . . well, except for knowing just how close the end is to them.
I suppose that could work, too.
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I didn't say you should be blind to the world.
I repeat, I try to get informed and up-to-date but another thing is to let what I hear get my sleep away. That's what I meant with send it to hell.
I try to think on my own and not just follow the herd.
I try to do what I can to support what I consider good things.
I try to be a good example for my kids and hope that they will have some good influence on other kids at the same time that I hope too they won't get too much bad influence from other kids.
But I am realistic and I know that I can't do much about those political topics, where instead of the "let's try to find the best solution for all" it goes more about "mine is bigger than yours". It doesn't matter who / which land / which party or whatsoever is on each side of the table.
Live your life the better you can and harm as less as possible.
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Oh my!
My nomination for your sainthood !*
As for: Nelek wrote: "mine is bigger than yours"
I mean I didn't want to press the point, but mine is.
* warning - strings attached! - this is apparently always a postmortem event following some painful . . .
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Neither I am a saint... 
I said "try", not "always do" 
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It hasn't really happened yet, has it?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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I thought it was all go last October, but maybe not...
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Well, as I understand it, they have decided to leave.
Until now they have been "negotiating" the terms.
Possibly they will leave this October, unless they postpone it again.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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On a technical level we've left the EU, but are more-or-less conducting business as usual while a permanent deal isn't reached.
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I have been trying to follow this in the news, realizing there are two sides in the British press that are so contradicting that you wonder if they're reporting on the same subject.
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Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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TBH that's pretty much the whole problem in the UK right now. The press very polarised and mostly spouting the political opinion of whoever owns it, or a least as much of the owner's opinion as they know they can get away with. We may rank OK in terms of "press freedom", but that's not the same thing as press balance.
You can sort today's papers fairly accurately with the following test:
Pro Brexit: Main headlines about the cap of the number of people who can meet indoors
Anti-Brexit: Main headline is about the UK's threat to break the law.
More likely to report Soap-Opera Story lines as real news than actual real news: Anything with a pun in the headline. The "i" might be an outlier, I don't think I've ever read it. The Independent (it's sister paper) seems to be the least nuts
Bonkers: Main headline is about Jammie Dodgers.
If you want something more considered you might want to try "Private Eye"- it's 50% satirical (but those parts are normally very funny) and only comes out once a fortnight.
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It seems everything onschedule. But as ordinary people who stoped traveling because of covid you may see no changes...
Brexit: What happens now? - BBC News[^]
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My impression is that there are louder competing political voices(more like screaming really) at the moment to be able to hear anything about Brexit.
It's strange that something as important as Brexit really has taken a backseat to a number of other issues in the mainstream media at the moment - not going to mention what those issues are as they are deeply political and divisive.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Yes, hence my question. All we hear about is the other stuff, but absolutely zilch anymore about brexit. I assumed it still going full steam ahead
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There is some reporting on the BBC but I am in the process of giving up on reading or listening to the BBC.
I think the general gist is that there may be a no-deal Brexit, there's some also sort of a spat going on regarding sprats.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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You can be sure the negotiators, being paid as executive bureaucrats are always paid, are making sure they've plenty of time to take their ill-gotten gains to the bank.
The long it runs the longer they're paid - along with various travel perks.
The only downside might be to have to be in the same room as one another - and that might all be a trumped up fantasy for the media to help justify their sloth.
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Thought it might be useful for someone living in the UK to comment!
Right now, nothing has changed. The transition period maintains the status quo whilst we get our sh!t together. Are we going to do that? Who knows! Does anyone care right now? Probably not! There's a virus out there that kills people; a Government that (not surprisingly) veers from trying to save lives to trying to save the economy every couple of weeks; and the press jumping on every 'tack and jibe' as a U-turn, because that's the sort of headline that sells.
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We are still waiting to find out. Until the end of the trade negotiations nothing has actually changed.
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Brexit? No-one cares about that. When they realised the scaremongering wasn't going to come true they found some other way to destroy the economy.
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Some time back I was wondering what to do with my surprisingly abundant chili harvest (of exceptionally hot chilies).[^] Well (and this doesn't change anything) I now have about a quart of bright red habanero puree and half as much deeply yellow Trinidad Scorpion puree. Both ground with vinegar to preserver.
An interesting testimony for something to do came from my brother (I donated many pepper seedlings to him): peach-habanero sauce. Given to him by someone to whom he gave many habaneros. He says it's mighty fine. I have an interesting use for my pepper trimmings: I use them to discourage dogs whose owners take them to "exercise" on my lawn (has fire hydrant: uh oh!). I don't want to use chili powder as this would hurt the dog (it's the owner that's the problem). I figure the robust aroma of chili will keep them at a distance. Also, I rinsed the blender and poured the juice on the fire hydrant. Ideally, the beasts will be conditioned to keep away even when I run out of trimmings.
The idea of a sweet sauce, like Asian style hot-and-sweet sauce, has now opened up. One last crop seems due. A few will be allowed to go to seed (scorpion seeds are costly). Now I need to consider some fruit options (apple, a trace of lemon or Vitamin C to preserve the color, and honey? Blueberries? Maybe one donated to making a dilute soup for dosing on canine attractions.)
The pre-made purees can still be used elsewhere, as well - they're's an awful lot of it.
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