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After answering all the questions i discovered that
Quote: You're making less money than 93% of people like you
with 9k/year of difference from the median. Nice.
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: it's still nothing without good documentation.
bullshit
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Slacker007 wrote: Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: it's still nothing without good documentation.
bullshit
Does "bullshit" applies for REST APIs you code and shared publicly?
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All my code is documented. Our stories don't pass their DOD (definition of done) until the code is reviewed and any internal and external facing documentation is done. We document intelligently, and not for the sake of documenting. Where I work, almost everyone has a lot of experience and no egos. It's a great ![Heart | [heart]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/love.gif) place to work!
/ravi
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Are you ok? Are they still threatening with a gun? Just act naturally, say you're ordering a pizza. Is your family safe? We are preparing an extraction plan, keep calm and act naturally.
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den2k88 wrote: We are preparing an extraction plan, keep calm and act naturally.
Ha ha ha! I guess I'm in the minority (old fart working in an early stage company), but ever since I left the world of large corporations (albeit heavily technical and 100% focussed on software development) for the world of startups in 2000, I've never looked back. The hours are long, but the rewards are worth it. It's great to be able to directly influence the direction and building of a software product, especially when you have excellent management (very technology aware), dev, sales and implementation teams in place. Bright people with no egos - it's awesome!
The best part is I get to learn from people who are smarter (a LOT smarter) than I am. 
/ravi
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I was just being jealous  considering that I spent the night awake due to conflict with the company I work for and I started the day with a subzero email to the HR department you have all of my (only positive) envy
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No - in 13 years in this job churning out LOB project after project I have almost never been given the time to write documentation. If it ever came down to a requirement then I would make the primary user/owner of the app write the documentation.
As for technical spec/requirements, you have to be joking, I get a spreadsheet full of crap and a mandate to fix the problem.
I get the greatest chuckle when I read about getting a client/user to sign off on requirements.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I have almost never been given the time to write documentation
You will when you are tasked to build REST APIs that will be shared publicly by outside your premise consumer. Even if you aren't be given a time to document it, you will be forced by yourself to write one. 
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It's gotten less through the years even though overall productivity has increased.  Now if I could just get my pita, type-A brother-in-law to quit calling me every day during work hours, I could get back an hour a day!..either that or I'm going to have to start charging for therapy. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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You realise that answering the phone is a choice, right? Caller-ID is your friend.
Communication needn't be synchronous - just make him write, then respond as it suits you, simple.
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Because I don't count configuring SSIS packages.
I try to write as much C# as I can, but many of today's managers don't want code.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: many of today's managers don't want code.
This may be true in your scenario, but I have personally found this to be the opposite in my career as a software engineer. I code C# at least 6-8 hours a day, every day, and have for many years.
But I have to ask, if you are a software developer, and managers are not asking for code, then what do they ask for? Just curious.
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Mostly they ask me to configure SSIS packages.
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We're a small shop undergoing huge transformation and modernization, so I spent most of the last four or five years working with JBoss server administration, environment setup, and creating and responding to use cases and test cases. I wrote code last month for the first time since I can remember (not including updates to legacy code to keep it up and running).
Can't wait to get back to writing code. Wait, cannot do that next week, I am in training for some of the proprietary stuff our vendor plugged into our system. So coding has to wait another week. Well, the week after that it's Admin training for the same plug-in. Then the advanced designer class. I hope to write code again in June...
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10%-25%
My nose is in code much more than that, but often it's fixing screw-ups by users. Sometimes, however, serial screw-ups lead to a new interface so they can do it themselves.
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Slacker007 wrote: a proactive effort,
In theory we should all follow that route.
My users, however, might well be a confluence of HR and IT's server administrators - each giving the employee a different uid for login (or, it's happenend where they have two uid). This ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) 's up the works big time. Direct manipulation of the database is often required AFTER they reconcile just what the real uid is to be.
Causes data attribution problems and data access problems. In a few cases, I even created the admin page for fixes and updated (for the IT server mob) and they still can't get around to fixing a problem until you make them do it.
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Mainly coding.
Fortunately, I am not required to attend many meetings.
10% - on design, etc.
Edit: currently, I am working on an existing web app, and thus design/etc. percentage is not very high.
modified 2-Apr-18 6:20am.
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If you do a lot of re-factoring you should think about better architectural concepts.
PS: I cant believe that 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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not a lot of refactoring. It's an existing site that grows/scales based on client requests. We add to it more than change it.
KarstenK wrote: PS: I cant believe that
Why is that so hard to believe? What kind of shop do you work in, where as a software developer, you are not paid and expected to be heads down coding, rather than bullshitting with your friends and surfing the internet?
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Because nobodies job is "just coding" - we all have to read a specification, interpret it, work out what we have to do as a result, design, code , test, redesign, recode, retest, repeat, release.
Getting the code down is the easy bit! It's all the other stuff that takes the time, but strictly that is part of the "development experience" which includes the mechanics of converting your design (be it for a single method or a whole app) into something the compiler will accept.
I'd count "coding" as sitting in from of VS typing...
So I've gone for 50 ~ 75 %, but I don't think it's really accurate. Thinking about it, it's probably more like 10 ~ 20 %
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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My interpretation is "any activity directly related to code", starting at the first problem analysis brainstorming, ending with committing the revision log, completing the release checklist.
The other fairly well defined alternative is to count the time when the source code editor is the active application, and you are actively typing program statements.
If you, in the second alternative, include the time spent leaned back, considering whether you should write the loop as a for loop or a while loop, then you are doing code design, not coding. There is no clear and well defined line over to more significant choices, such as deciding upon a data structure, code modularization, thread/process design, ... Typing code statements is at one end of the scale, including everything from problem analysis to revision log is at the other end, and the scale between them is continuous. The only well defined points are at the ends; any other is an arbitrary choice.
Even if you count in everything code related, jore time is spent at non-coding than most people believe. You chat with colleagues about how they spent their Easter holiday. You discuss what kind of qualities you should ask for when announcing a new position in the company. You fill in your travel expenses report after that customer visit. You answer to CP Surveys
So I simply do not trust those who claim they spend 90+ % of their time coding. Even 80% is on the high side; that is when you include the time when you appear to be doing other things (such as group meetings, going to the bathroom etc.), but you mind is still at the code, planning how you will be writing the code statements as soon as you get back to the keyboard.
When I was a student, I was expecting wroking life to be 100% coding. I guess I learnt different the first week of my first job. And I have never been close ever since.
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