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Actually, I believe it is older than that.
I used it for an app under Windows 95. (Visual C++ / MFC).
Back when it was called Visual Studio 1.x, 2.x, etc. Only in 2000, I think did they start calling it Visual Studio 20xx. Just thought it was interesting.
Edit
I am wrong. I guess it was called something different than what I was thinking back then. Hmmm...
Microsoft Visual Studio - Wikipedia[^]
Edit 2
I guess this is what I'm thinking about...
Visual C++ 2.0, which included MFC 3.0, was the first version to be 32-bit only. In many ways, this Visual C++ 2.x also supported Win32s development....
Visual C++ 2.1 and 2.2 were updates for 2.0 available through subscription.
Visual C++ 4.0, released on 1995-12-11[12] introduced the Developer Studio IDE
from Visual C++ - Wikipedia[^]
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Yeah, Microsoft C++ used that IDE all the way back in 1993-4-5 and I was thinking it was named Visual Studio but probably not. I think it was just called Visual C++. The old IDE been around a long time.
I remember Visual Basic 1.x released and was a separate IDE you installed and used. Interesting.
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First coding job was using the Microsoft C 5.1 compiler. You had to drop out of windows to build stuff.
Had to have different autoexec.bat file for compiling, debugging, using windows.
Our mantra was "Boot, boot, boot, boot, boot."
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I was programming in C with the Lattice compiler around 1984 when Microsoft bought that compiler and turned it into Microsoft C.
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Same here. Lattice and another cross-compiler whose name I can't remember.
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.
You're welcome.
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Not according to Wikipedia:
Microsoft first released Visual Studio ... in 1997
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yeah, it's interesting history. Do you remember Visual Interdev for IIS web extension development?
It was yet another separated IDE. All those memories collapse together and it seems like I've been using Visual Studio all the way back. 
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raddevus wrote: Do you remember Visual Interdev for IIS web extension development?
Oh yes. I think I even used it once or twice. (That's probably why I still prefer to do web stuff in Notepad++!)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I started with Visual Studio 6 doing C++ and MFC. Until now, I had NO IDEA that there was only 1 prior version! 
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Right. That's how I felt.
Haha. I honestly remember installing Visual (whatever it was called ) 1.0. I'm not kidding.
Oh, before that, the "old guys" had installed something like Microsoft C 7.0 for Windows API dev.
I also remember installing version 1.0 of Visual Basic from three 3.5" floppies.
Great stuff.
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I remember the beta when it came out, the disk was available free with the purchase of some magazine, don't remember the mag. Kept the disk for yeas!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Time's fun when you're having flies!
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kmoorevs wrote: sql == sql right?
Well.. SQL is a querying standard. And the standard to that standard is SQL92. Which MySQL does not support, might be too new still.
kmoorevs wrote: So far, I hate Joomla!
Is there an option to say "this Joomla thing has to go"?
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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With new experiences comes learning. My TILD is that objects in MySQL may be case-sensitive, depending on environment and system options...in my case, they were which was puzzling at first.
As for the option of getting off of Joomla, that is up to the owner/friend. We're just trying to help out and that's it. She's not a client I would want anyway.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: As for the option of getting off of Joomla, that is up to the owner/friend. We're just trying to help out and that's it.
"As a friend, this server is suffering. We should do the humane thing and pull the plug before there are any more casualties. Stay close together and report back every five minutes."
kmoorevs wrote: My TILD is that objects in MySQL may be case-sensitive, depending on environment and system options
Case-sensitive? That sounds like a cruel joke - like, you could have a "CodeProject" table and a "COdePRoject" table?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Case-sensitive? That sounds like a cruel joke - like, you could have a "CodeProject" table and a "COdePRoject" table?
You can do that in SQL Server too you know...
I worked at a place that hired a new CIO. He fired all the current management and brought in his own team and contracted out the developer jobs. I guess he figured we were all incompetent. The contractors (his friends) installed a MS SQL instance that was case sensitive - and had different tables where only the capitalization distinguished them! About a year later and they were gone, and the work they did was incomplete. Us 'incompetent' developers that stuck it through cleaned up the mess and got everything working again in a few months. About a year after that, the CEO sold the company and the new owners decided to outsource the whole thing.
I was put out of my misery and found a job that has been a better fit for me - growing technically, higher pay, more vacation, less hours, more flexibility, better managers... live and learn. I'm not going to sit around and stagnate in a failing business again...
Can you tell I was bitter?
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Pualee wrote:
Can you tell I was bitter?
Just a little bit, right? 
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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MySQL doesn't fully support SQL92, but the differences are so subtle it's only in very complex queries you would strike any issues.
SQL server (and with the help of asp) tends to throw people at it's own non standard extensions if not careful (MySQL not so much 'throws people at it's non standards' - but it still happens.)
It's not only MySQL's fault that SQL server people have issues with it - both are to blame. (Vice versa too.)
If you don't believe that, have a go at Firebird, that'll slap the 'I know proper SQL' right out of you.
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the any key may be continuate
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If only there were better code Structure to Joomla.
Alas, PHP. It's quite powerful but most people use it in such a scripty way.
You can't find nothing in Joomla because there just isn't very nice structure to the code.
Joomla is a trap. It looks so nice from the outside. So nice.
Then <SNAP> you're manager implemented the blog and it looks so easy. Be a good little dev won't you and fix this little thing.
Argh!!!
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Quite accurate. There is a very steep learning curve to Joomla which is glossed over in all the flashy demos. The code thing is a nightmare and I still have not managed to get a development environment working. The features are pretty good and once the site is up and running it is very easy to support as long as any extra extensions employed stay current.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I have had trouble with all the blog engines that use PHP.
My WordPress site got hacked even though I kept it updated so I destroyed it.
I tried Joomla for about 3 days but found it difficult to find the files to edit to set my own logo and other custom items easily. Had the same challenges with Drupal.
I moved to dotNetBlogEngine (DNBE) and I'm extremely happy with it though it doesn't seem to be documented super well and it's based on older versions of an MVC pattern. However, once I installed it it was extremely easy to customize and add blog entries from anywhere.
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Good luck with Joomla.
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