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Because I have not used VS2015 yet - been stuck at VS2013. I just got the license for VS2015 last week and have not had time to install it yet.
I assume the "I have no idea" option covers people who would have chosen
"I am using an older version of Visual Studio"
"I am using another IDE for my web development"
"I don't do web development"
"I am not a developer"
...and so on
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Of course it is easier if you know the tools otherwise the web stack looks like a dogs breakfast.
VS2015 may not be the best IDE for some jobs but I'd hate not to have it. I watched some poor bastard trying to debug Python code recently in some other IDE, what a joke.
It crashes, locks up for minutes at a time, loses track of TFS and is still the best IDE I have ever used.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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...If you know the tools are there!
But seriously, how many people actually know all the possibilities VS can offer you? My collegues constantly show me new stuff I had no idea was there, and I return the favour...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Answer: It's complicated...IMHO web development has gotten way more complicated than it used to be, however at the same time, the resources available to solve the thousands of little problems you are likely to encounter have grown exponentially. Does anyone else remember waiting for the quarterly MSDN CDs to arrive? Overall, I think it's easier due to better resources and more complete IDEs and frameworks.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Definitely harder. There are too many frameworks and fads popping up every month. Remember classic ASP? It was great, then someone said it was "spaghetti-code", no doubt to talk up .NET web forms with it's ridiculous page as a form rubbish. Then .net arrives with the VB/C# snobbery going on. Now it's MVC with in-line Razor code, which some could argue resembles the "spaghetti-code" of classic asp. We're now being driven by marketeers instead of engineers so expect more of the same disjointed logic going forward
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Craig100 wrote: Remember classic ASP?
I almost mentioned this in the OP! I still find it easier to tell what's going on in a classic asp application where the presentation and logic are all together in the same code file...still harder to debug though!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Sounds horrible? May be. But, I did write every little details of my PHP backed application.
Tool(s):
-> Notepad++
-> GIMP
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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C# and .net you can use those?? I feel like using .net force you to use vs
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As far i have seen with dotnet, you can.
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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I've been using VS since 1997, since it was launched in the UK as Visual Interdev. The current (VS2015) code editor pane is the worst yet. There are far too many options for code formatting. I'm a web developer now mainly concentrating on Umbraco sites so I'm creating and editing Razor code most of the time. I expend more keystrokes correcting unwanted formatting than I do writing code. Pasting anything into existing code causes the whole section to reformat (generally hard left). As far as I know I have all auto formatting for all languages switched off and it still thinks it knows better than I do as to how I want my code formatting.
I also use NetBeans for the occasional PHP site. It does a MUCH better job than VS at formatting and is MUCH simpler.
I get annoyed with VS's twitter feed telling everyone about the latest whizz-bang facility they've been working on (that I bet hardly anyone uses) because they haven't got the very basics right yet. It can't be rocket science.
End of a bit of a rant, thanks for listening
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Do you have Web Essentials installed? It has a "Format on enter" setting.
You may have already tried the Text Editor > HTML > Advanced > Format on paste setting, but double-check it, also.
Point being that there are multiple ways that stuff gets reformatted. I also use CodeMaid, and have seen Resharper reformat stuff, as well.
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Thanks. I don't have Web Essentials installed, I used to but didn't see the point as it didn't appear to do anything useful.
I checked the "Format on paste" setting, it was already "false".
I don't use Resharper. When I've tried it, it slows VS down to a crawl, so it's basically unusable, (I have a powerful Dell i7 laptop with 16GB RAM).
It is ridiculous though that VS needs 3rd party extensions to be tolerable. I know MS get their ass kicked on a daily basis, but you can see why! I'll install Web Essentials again and see if that makes a difference
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I've done sites with VS for years, and it's always far more difficult than using Notepad. But I've also done a few with Adobe Dreamweaver to compare them, and by far, the Dreamweaver is much easier to use to develop a working site. Unfortunately, when you pull down the site's shorts and look at the details, Dreamweaver creates a passel of the ugliest code you have ever seen, even worse than than asking Word to save a document as a web page. It's horrible! But it's easy, and these days that seems to matter to people far more than quality code.
Even though it's a PITA to use, and wastes more hours than any IDE for web development that I know of, I'm sticking with VS because in the right hands, it can make beautiful sites that work efficiently. We engineers are a bit anal about that, and I'd gladly spend 1,000 hours making the code right, than spend 100 hours creating a site that works, but can't be understood or maintained ( i.e. Dreamweaver). That's probably why nobody wants to hire me to make websites...
Will Rogers never met me.
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I just threw up a little in the back of my throat.
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Ok cool. You can write that check out to Jeremy Falcon. Thanks man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Already wrote the check to myself being as I was the first person who read the post...
Damned check bounced, tho; now I'm out $29.95 for NSF (Non-Sufficient Funds)
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When posting a message, one must click the "Post Message", which then posts *and* displays the resulting just-added message.
One can choose to read or not read the just-posted message.
Looking to become an instant millionare, I opted to read the just-posted message.
Upon doing such, I informed myself of being the first to have read the message (complete with title, mind you), of which I then wrote a check to myself.
Voila.
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How wrong thou art, for, doth not the subject read "The first person to read this...", of which, in fact, I was the first person to read it immediately upon writing it.
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In fact, I did read it.
My monkeys will attest to such.
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Simply put, I've been developing applications in Visual Studio far too long (since version 6.0) to answer whether VS 2015 makes anything easier. However, this question can possibly reveal some great insights. For example, who should answer this question? Are the people asking this question able to provide feedback to the VS team?
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"Easier" is a relative term and liable to multiple interpretations. I still find it hard to do Web development, it seems wrong somehow. The web has encouraged the decline of civilization as we know it. I used to think Sir Tim Berners-Lee was a great man but now I have my doubts. It's a bit like the invention of laptops, smart-phones or even cell-phones in the first place; they seemed like a good idea at the time but the long term impacts were not considered.
COBOL on mainframe computers is all we really needed to be efficient and productive, but no, we had to go those extra steps to our ultimate doom!
I would say more but my phone just told me "I have mail"!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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