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Strange, I used to say that as well. Now I prefer it over being taken for a fool time and again.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: being taken for a fool time and again.
And how did Microsoft do that?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just look at the last four versions and look what happened. Three times out of four, with Vista, Win 8 and now Win 10, they tried to push some grand ideas down our throats, wether we wanted them or not. They even went out of their way to kill off their previous grand ideas in order to usher you to the next one. Somewhere else in this thread someone wrote something like treating customers like cattle. That's what I call being taken as a fool, twice for every time they said 'oops' and came with their next horrible thing. By now we obviously have no more choice at all, at least according to Mickeysoft. They hijack your computer against your will and feel free to spend your bandwith in any way they please, possibly even creating an extra bill, but your are right: They are really doing such a great job. It's not like anybody is having severe difficulties after finally falling victim to their intrusion.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Spot on.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I guess I'm just a capitalist at heart. If you don't like them, move on. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Capitalism is a mortal sin, in Christianity.
The only time that Jesus lost his temper was in the "office" of capitalists.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Being deceptive and trying to provoke trouble are also against the tenets of Christianity.
"Childish tantrum" is obviously you fishing for an argument, because there has been nothing childish or tantrum-ish in anything I've said to you.
Your little "oh, i'm superior to everyone because i'm a christian/capitalist/ms wumao" trip isn't even annoying, it's so surreal. It's like watching a car accident.
Also, you've made it very clear, in the past, that it is you who knows nothing at all about the bible, in discussions where I have quoted it (from memory, then looked up the chapter and verse), but you were not able to raise even a single quote (despite googling).
Here's where you can start to redeem yourself: Where, in the bible, does it say that capitalism is not an evil, which sinners will be punished for, come judgement day?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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RyanDev wrote: All kinds of vendors do auto-updates. This is nothing new.
Yes, of course, except in this case we're not talking about an update, but a full upgrade.
Interestingly, I'm using an entreprise version of Windows 7 at home; I never saw any sollicitation to upgrade to Windows 10. Do Microsoft fear being sued by entreprises for upgrading systems without full compatibility having being tested? I wonder if a class action could make them back off.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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phil.o wrote: we're not talking about an update, but a full upgrade.
potato potato.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Wow, I'm impressed. What an elephanting argument!
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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Sorry, I guess you confused me with someone else with whom you were arguing.
Perhaps you don't know what "potato potato" means. That is quite possible. It's really an audible thing. In American English there are 2 common ways of pronouncing potato. But either way, it's still a potato.
An update or an upgrade, who cares? It's still their software, not yours.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I bought the OS, as well as the computer to make it run. So in my point of view, they are fully mine.
I get your point, though; what a world it would be if marketing people were not allowed to treat their customers as cattle anymore.
And thanks for the linguistic information (no sarcasm here, really); I would hesitate to use it for my own argumentation, though.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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phil.o wrote: So in my point of view, they are fully mine.
There is the problem. You don't own software, you essentially rent it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: It's still their software, not yours.
It's still my PC, not theirs. They have no right to come into my world and force an update on me.
What is the author of your favorite book came into your house while you were gone and rewrote a bunch of chapters. It's their book, right?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Kevin Marois wrote: It's still my PC
That is correct. So, don't install their software.
Kevin Marois wrote: It's their book, right?
No. They own the words but not the printed copy. You do.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Or, wait for a torrent with a cracked version and elephant them off. Pay 0, get all the updates when they get released cracked and the cracks themselves prevent MS crapware.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I know several honest people who've gone down that path.
Criminal activity begets criminal activity.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Runs with criminals. No surprise there. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I run with scissors, as well, so you'd better get out of my way, if you see me coming.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Except I simply don't believe it's actually happening. I know plenty of people still with Windows 7, I have Windows 8.1, and NONE automatically upgraded. You had to click on something first to allow that upgrade.
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Kevin Marois wrote: IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR MS TO DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL ANYTHING ONTO SOMEONE'S PC WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION
It is. It's called hacking. There are laws.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: There are laws.
You are 0 for 1 so far. Here's your second chance. Can you back this up? Where is it illegal for Microsoft to update their own software?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just like with the bible, you appear to know it's there, but not know anything about it. I suggest you look into hacking laws before accepting any more wu mao payments from ms for promoting winio.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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