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So I came back from the pub tonight and the missus said
"you're drunk again"
I slurred "no I'm not"
She said
"It's either me or The Pub, which is it?"
I thought for awhile and replied
"It's you, I can tell by your voice."
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Me and the signigicant other are at 36001 ft. Our first A380. Dubai ahead, Adam to port and Tiwi to starboard. Should be in our hotel in Madrid by lunch.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Quote: are at 36001 ft
Are you sure it's not 36002 ft? 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Of course not, he's sitting down as the seatbelt sign is on. 
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Did you think about climate protection? 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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0) I have been a bit away from technology since every device still working @home
1) Laptop is not for me. Is for a family member of my wife. We will get old desktop (actually not so old) in exchange
2) Ok... I buy something middle class, the elder woman is not a geek and her usage is low profile.
3) Headache 1 (low): All my boot cds won't boot, F12 for boot menu... not appearing in the list  Let's have a look to the BIOS... supervisor password set  Start trying the standards... I find it out at 5th try (guess which). BIOS with very very few information and settings Something I don't know (secure boot) hmmm ok... lets try legacy... boot CDs work. Fine
4) Headache 2 (middle): Mini WinXP of boot CD won't load due to too high amount of RAM (kinda expected it)... Select Linux, go to partition tools, select parangon... HI-Memory not available It doesn't matter which too I try to boot, always the same message even the portable norton ghost that is less than 1 mb 
5) Lets try with Windows directly while I search for new versions of boot cd... works. Nice, I start being happier.
6) Windows 7 installed. I go to device manager, put the delivered Driver DVD and start the list of the unknown devices... some of them not found
8) I go to the manufacturers site... enter the SSID, have a look to the list options... only Win8.1 and Win10 (Kinda expected it but still annoying like hell)
9) Even SSID entered (which I expected to be like a "unique" hardware configuration for that model), some of the drivers are like 10 times depending on (NFA335 HAI/Liteon, NFA435 HAI/Liteon etc...)
And now the question...
If the BIOS gives me no usefull information about the devices and the device manager in windows has only generics inside... how can I find out which of the 10 damm drivers offered in the list is the one this laptop needs? I would have expected to find out like a signature for the hardware on the device manager or anywhere else in control panel that can help. I wanted to search in the net for drivers of win7, I suppose I can still find some of them. Any advice? My last idea (I don't really want to do this) is to download the 50+ items on the list and start trying everyone just to see, which one complains and which ones not, and then format and start over again.
Definitivelly, being the only one in the family that knows something about computers is not the best role.
Rant P.S. Damm Win10... so happy I was with support for win7
Thanks for your patience and your help in advance
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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modified 8-Mar-16 14:40pm.
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Well, you know what we of the Win 10 fan club are going to tell you to do and you won't do it, so I won't. 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Right now... I would prefer to try it with Win7. The aunt of my wife is even more reluctant to new technologies (in this case Win10) than me. She is already used to Win7 and doesn't want to start over again (she is in the last 60es)
If it was for me... I would even consider giving a try to win 10
M.D.V.
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if she's planning on making it to her late 80s or even her late 70s there's probably not going to be a choice before long. Might as well bite the bullet while she's still young!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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I hope MS will regain some user friendship. Hope is last to die
M.D.V.
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I don't like to imagine, what comments such a question will produce in Q/A.
I miss "What have you tried?"
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Good that it is not a programming question
And about the what have you tried... I better don't answer -.-
M.D.V.
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Probably too late now but you might have considered a Chromebook for the old gal.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Yes... it is a bit late 
M.D.V.
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Why didn't you just leave the laptop alone? Seems like you created a world of pain by trying to "downgrade" it to W7, especially since the manufacturer probably doesn't support drivers for W7.
Marc
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I didn't downgrade it.
We ordered it without OS because Win10 made 110€ difference and she wanted Win7 anyways... and now I am regretting it. But that doesn't help
M.D.V.
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Advice: Immediately restore the laptop to factory settings. You did create restore media right? Hopefully you haven't deleted the recovery partition either... at any rate, put a fresh copy of 7 on a new SSD for the 'not so old' rig. You keep the laptop, which is probably way more horsepower than she needs, and let her keep the tower. Good luck! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Quote: put a fresh copy of 7 on a new SSD for the 'not so old' rig
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I fail to see what an elderly woman would miss in Win10 that she had in Win7. Unless she's doing some cross-platformn hw driver development that support iMacs using Eclipse.
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They are stepping it up! 
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Nish Nishant wrote: They are stepping it up!
I assume you are referring to Eclipse.
Marc
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oh just to extent there cloudy reach ehe
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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They first claim to be your friend. Just when you feel comfortable, they will slow replace your activities then boom! Conquer! Taken over!
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Right, that's all the worst IDE in the world needs: the ribbon.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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