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Thanks for the links!
Nature is incredible, love to be out in it! I'm an avid hiker, camper, backpacker and boater and lucky enough live in an area where I can do all of it!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta tomorrow (noun): a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
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... Unless I had a requirement to support old mickeysoft browsers.
I had been banging my head over a simple design solution for last few hours to just get the navbar right.
I can't use polyfills because that may not be available due to "security"
And browser cannot be updated again due to an obnoxious cocktail of "security" and "compatibility"
Because an internal thing is running on something that breaks on new mickeysoft browsers.
(Hope the "one" is not seeing me  )
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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ΑlphaΔeltaΘheta wrote: Because an internal thing is running on something that breaks on new mickeysoft browsers.
Compatibility Mode?
Really, I don't understand why it's so difficult to fix the 'internal thing' to work with the modern browsers as it's usually just outdated javascript or css.
This morning (at my non-developer Saturday job) I have been fighting with IE11 on Win10 Home. (yes, they are using Home edition for the business) Start IE, it crashes. Disable all add-ons and restart it, it crashes. So why not just use another browser? Because the commercial web application we use to do business only works with IE<10! I finally got it to work by using the 'run as admin' option which raises another question. Why does that work, when I'm already an Administrator on the box?  Actually, I don't care, as long as it works for my shift. My point is that it is bad business to promote an IE only product!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: Why does that work, when I'm already an Administrator on the box?
UAC - you're an Administrator, but you're not an Administrator. 
Did you try turning Protected Mode off?
Internet Explorer Protected Mode - Turn On or Off - Windows 7 Help Forums[^] (It says Windows 7, but the steps haven't changed for W10.)
It could be a problem with the permissions on the file system or the registry. They aren't documented anywhere, and they're so complicated to fix that MS usually just tell you to create a new user profile, or refresh/reset your PC. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard, Turning off the Protected Mode did the trick. Thanks! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: Really, I don't understand why it's so difficult to fix the 'internal thing' to work with the modern browsers as it's usually just outdated javascript or css.
No it isn't difficult at all. But no one cares to update it. It does contain some kind of ActiveX back from the IE6 days which refuses to run on new machines.
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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How old are we talking?
If it's IE10, then you just need to use the older syntax[^].
Using Flexbox: Mixing Old and New for the Best Browser Support[^]
If it's IE9 or earlier, then you'll need to fake it with float or display:inline-block.
Use Modernizr[^] to add classes to the <html> element so that you can easily switch between approaches:
.flexbox .product-grid
{
display: flex;
flex-direction: row;
flex-wrap: wrap;
justify-content: center;
}
.flexbox .product-grid > .product-grid-item
{
flex-basis: 25%;
}
.no-flexbox .product-grid > .product-grid-item
{
display: inline-block;
vertical-align: top;
width: 25%;
}
If you're using display:inline-block, watch out for white-space between your elements:
Fighting the Space Between Inline Block Elements[^]
But now this is starting to turn into a programming question! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: But now this is starting to turn into a programming question!
Thank you for your awesome answer for my non programming question. Especially for the link to the old syntax and how to mix it with the new syntax properly.
But the idiot devil sysadmin has turned off JavaScript
Old : As I'm told a couple of boxes may still run IE 6. Majority are Windows 7 boxes, so I guess should be IE 8
Pretty old indeed. With the exception of dev boxes that we use.
I'm not using flexbox now. Had to go the hard way with floats and inline-blocks.
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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ΑlphaΔeltaΘheta wrote: IE 6
Kill it! Kill it with fire! 
Might be worth mentioning to the sysadmin that support for IE6 ended in April 2014. Every security vulnerability found since then remains unpatched.
And, as of 12th January this year, anything earlier than IE11 is in the same boat: Internet Explorer End of Support[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Your sysadmin seems to be the a complete idiot.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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You still have an ip address don't you?
And what about cookies?
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Yes I have an IP (from my provider), but I changed my Location before two month... and somebody seems to remember my history.
Cookies: I don't think so. I tried it with a VBox which is really - I think - virgin. But same happens there.
And the most curious: If I do the same while connecting to any pc in our Company Network I face the same
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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The NSA likes you! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I run CCleaner on a regular basis to get rid of pesky cookies and other stuff left behind when I use my browser. It's free.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I will have a look for CCleaner. Thank you for this,
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Nobodies watching you.
Justin Bieber turns up quite frequently on youtube.
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YouTube is watching you?
Or maybe the people who listen to your current song also listen to your favorite song a long (like you)?
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Have you heard of Browser Fingerprinting?
I suggest you look at this Am I unique?[^]
It will give you a breakdown of how they can pin point a single user.
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Got a customers computer that has decided certain dialog boxes don 't need any test in the box itself or on buttons.
I thought I had it down to Outlook Notifications and the Email Account Dialog, but then the customer showed me the MYOB 2015.4.1 Open Company File Dialog and it was the same.
I have removed all Malwae, Applied all Windows Updates, including IE 11, AMD Display Drivers and also Office Updates.
I have it here now to backup and reinstall, but I don't want to.
What is the magic bullet to fix this?
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: What is the magic bullet to fix this?
Beer.
Lots and lots of beer.
Then with luck he won't be able to see the damn computer, much less complain about dialog boxes!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Beer.
Lots and lots of beer.
Then with luck he won't be able to see the damn computer, much less complain about dialog boxes!
Faarrrkkk Off, I'm not giving him my beer. I'm currently alternating between Matilday Bay Brewwings Fat Yak and Double Bundy OP and Pepsi Max.
I'm feeling ggod now, but mot tomorrow when the issue still remains.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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He's a customer.
So you give him your beer, then you charge him for it (plus a handling fee, of course).
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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