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From my Point of view "What have you tried" is useless in case it is mandatory. You can fill it simply with "123456789012345678901234567890". It does not give any improvement, it simply makes it hard to ask a question in a structured way. This because "What have you tried" is usually tied strongly to the question....and so I don't like to give references in my Q to "WYT" and vice versa.....
[Edit]And I'm more or less sure, it will chase away new users. Asking a question should be easy "let me only ask"... and not be dependend on follwing some theoretical rules. Otherwhise you can also define, that asking a Q Needs to be structured like an article.
Example: W32 – registerdevicenotification - dev_broadcast_deviceinterface - ansi vs. unicode[^]
Asking a Q should be easy: Of course one has to take into account that this and that Q is not clear (same will be with "What have you tried"). But better for CP to have unclear Q's instead of loosing new users.
If you go on with things like "What have you tried" ... I see it, there will be questions in other Forums asking: How can I ask a Q in CP?
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Only my mind.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: better for CP to have unclear Q's instead of loosing new users
I suspect we lose more users due to being told their questions are unclear than will be put off by this question. Thing is, while yours was a decent question, it is far from typical. The vast majority of questions that appear to be asked tend to be of the variety of "I need X" without telling us anything such as what they have tried and ruled out already, or any indication that the problem has been thought through. These users are then hammered by the same group of the "elite" who seem to think that the questioners are there purely as their personal punchbags. This feature should go some little way to helping them.
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Thank you very much for your Feedback.
Here an example why I think the new Option does not help/gives any improvement:
Making our website unique[^]
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Unfortunately, no system will help those who don't help themselves.
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I agree.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: "What have you tried" is useless in case it is mandatory
You're a developer so I reject such a general statement.
Do you mean "it's useless for me, as a question asker, in a specific situation" or "it's useless for every situation and of no benefit whatsoever to anyone, anywhere".
0x01AA wrote: But better for CP to have unclear Q's instead of loosing new users
I disagree. CodeProject is first and foremost for sharing code and sharing knowledge. I would rather have clearer questions, and less of them, than more questions that are poorly described, aren't posed in a way that shows the person has thought through what they are asking, and/or are phrased in a way that makes it obvious the poster hasn't even attempted to find a solution themselves.
Suggest an improvement that will guide those who are unable (or unwilling) to post their questions clearly.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thank you very much for your feedback.
It was just my small contribution to this topic. Do not bother too much about it.
I only remember when I was new here. I was lot of times criticized for my questions... but with time I learned how to ask a Q giving an Answer.
I don't think the new option does really improve this learning phase. Give People a Chance to learn here. I learned a lot here like ... how to express me ... calm down when something was not in my favor (that is the most important Thing and hardest part I learned here).
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I understand that this forum is not primarily to “socialize” members, but it can/should be a part.
Kind Regards
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: Give People a Chance to learn here
They have that chance, plenty of it: Articles en masse. Unfortunately, many seem to ignore this opportunity and choose to "just do it somehow".
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Do they have really the chance?
I had some luck (?, yes it was really ok and helped) to be confronted with SAK at my very beginning. I don’t know why, but SAK that time was patiently to guide me. I think also SAK does not always pay that much patience for beginners; it was only a lucky shot for me.
I only like that all beginners have the same Chance what I had.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Quote: Do you mean "it's useless for me, as a question asker, in a specific situation" or "it's useless for every situation and of no benefit whatsoever to anyone, anywhere".
Yes, it is useless for most every Situation. In some rare case it is maybe suitable.
Quote: Suggest an improvement that will guide those who are unable (or unwilling) to post their questions clearly.
Sorry, I'm not able to do it. For me the way how CP handles it until now was very ok. Asking a Question was simple.
Also I like to mention: The possibility to join CP without being a member is GREAT! One of the important "Details" which makes CP attractive. Please don't destroy this with artificial burdens to ask a question here.
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I changed my E-mail in CP for authoring purposes but CP doesn't send me a confirmation E-mail. I get other things from CP such as my article being published but confirmation does not work--so CP e-mail does get to my new address. When I change back to my older e-mail address I do get the confirmation E-mail. Please help. I would like to use my new address as my older e-mail has too much spam in it to be useful for answering CP questions.
What I've Tried:
I change to my new address in CP and get authoring/publication change notifications but cannot get the confirmation to work
I change back to m old address in CP and suddenly I can get a CP confirmation of my (old) new address
I've done this multiple times back and forth but it's always the same outcome.
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Email me (chris@codeproject.com) directly from the address you wish to confirm
cheers
Chris Maunder
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The following note appears when searching forum messages only (i.e. only the "Forum Messages" check box is selected) at the bottom of the page:
Note We have changed to default "Sort By" setting to "Date created, descending" since you are only searching forum messages.
Which is fine, but when I try to change the order to "Relevance" from the "Sort by" combo, it goes back to "Created (New - Old)".
[Edited] The other sort options seem to work, though. [/Edited]
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I suggest stopping votes on answers after a certain amount of time.
I got downvoted yesterday for an answer I gave in Q & A 4 years ago. My answer was a valid one (and the question was rather not so), but I guess someone still disliked it.
Moreover, not the case here, but questions could be updated making an earlier answer invalid.
of course, just a suggestion.
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Conversely you could get upvoted too. If someone finds an old thread by googling their issue (I can haz google? Unlikely, I know  ) and they find your solution then they can upvote it if it's good, and that adds to the rep of the solution over time.
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he he, I thought of that, but the likelyhood of an upvote is afar less than that of a downvote and in most cases, even after a few weeks the threads are not actual anymore, anyway 
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I tend to disagree. I've had very old posts upvoted-usually after someone has resurrected an old post but sometimes after a Googler has been in.
Had down votes too, granted.
You will always get the down voters whatever the age of the post
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V. wrote: I got downvoted yesterday
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with you at this time. Stay strong.
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I frequently get no results when I want to see the reputation page. The page loads but there is no table. After a few refreshes or retries it works, but it is quite annoying.
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What is the official position of the site?
In an article Chris sent me a message saying more or less: That is not a tip, tip must be short.
To be honest, I prefer to keep the focus on good articles having a higher minimum requirements and to have a bigger diversity in tips, than to keep the focus on short tips and everything what is longer going to articles.
In other words... With black and white, the grey zone belongs to tip.
And I think many members think like me. But if I am wrong, then I won't say the "have you consider to post this as a tip?" anymore, if it is not clearly 100% a tip.
I would like to have answers from @Chris-Maunder, @Sean-Ewington at least, other CP-Staff are welcome as well.
Members feel free to answer, I will accept the majority.
Edit: Expanding the types with the "HowTo/Walkthrough" and/or "Guideline" (as suggested short ago) would be a nice feature that would cover most of the grey zone and make it easier to classify.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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read my message please
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Are you asking detail explanation between Tip vs Article? I personally think the definition Sean put is more than enough.
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Another time... please read my message carefully.
I am asking about the gray zone.
Edit: Nevermind I got what I wanted, answer is given.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 10-Feb-16 11:58am.
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Glad you got what you want.
No argument though. I read many times what you wrote. And the answer what I gave and what Sean gave landed on the same content except different links.
Here is the content both places.
What I gave you as a link :
What is a tip?
A Tips and Tricks post is a single problem, with a single solution, and a super-short write-up. Ideally you could consume it in under 30 seconds.
And what Sean gave you :
So we are going to clarify what a tip is: A Tips and Tricks post is a single problem, with a single solution, and a super-short write-up. Ideally you could consume it in under 30 seconds.
I don't think you need article clarification.
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