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Be Cool!
They will be fixed on the next recount.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Well like I said for me it makes no difference, for you it could mean a few 100 points.
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Yep - I am aware of this bug which is why I hesitate to clean votes. However, yesterday was silly and I felt warranted some action.
The big will be fixed and all points corrected.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: The big will be fixed
 There's another one!!
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I too have problem with reputation points.
As Chris said waiting for it to be cleared.
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Earlier today the lounge got carpet bombed with one votes so I figured I'd counter it a bit.
I started 5 voting the messages that where obviously uni-voted, after a couple I hit the message 'someone at your IP adress has been voting to much...'.
K no problem I'll wait a couple min and continue, after a few more the same message.
Repeat this a couple times and eventually the waiting a couple min doesn't work anymore (waited half an hour ).
So checked the reputation stats and figure out that there is a max of 50 votes a day.
K go to check my recent reputation stats, count the upvotes for today and only 19 votes, so didn't hit that limit yet.
But still I can't vote anymore.
So I think there might be something wrong with the daily limit count.
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Think TimeZones!
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC League Table Link
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I did and I checked my vote count for the last 3 days and I haven't voted 50 times in those 3 days.
I'm however able to vote again now (countered a few one votes on you in the lounge) so I think it's more a time delay.
Vote 5 times you have to wait 2 min, vote another 5 times you have to wait 10 min, vote another 5 times you have to wait half an hour... .
(numbers are made up  )
It's either that or the hamsters picked me to mess with today 
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There are several "Vote Maximum" points.
There is a 5 minute and a 30 minute cut off point.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
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As you are a Voting guru.. How can 2 votes for an Answer (1 good, 1 bad) average at 4.56/5? Does some users carry more voting weight? i.e. the OP?
Illogical thoughts make me ill
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The voting is based on reputation.
The higher your reputation is the more weight your vote has.
That's how the average can be 4.56.
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OK, I understand the logic in having a system based on weight but a high reputation is not always best.
The post that made me think of this is this one[^], which I am not the OP however I did mark and answer as "BAD" because the code given to solve the problem did not compile (which in my opinion is NOT a "GOOD" answer). This set the score as 1/5. Then it became 4.56 with another vote... I can take a guess at the other voter with the higher rep based on other replies, but why should his higher rep result is the answer being rated so highly when the code doesn't even work. I understand the code could merely be an "idea", and I am really just using this instance as an example rather than having a go at the OP or any potential voters.
Another example, if I was the OP, if I mark an answer as bad (presuming it doesn't solve/relate to the problem in question) why should somebody with a higher rep be able to alter the score so greatly? Thus giving a false impression that the answer actually helped in anyway.
Sorry, for ranting at you - I guess you just got lucky today
Illogical thoughts make me ill
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In any voting system you will always get spurious votes. Someone will upvote something that is crap, or downvote something that is good. However, over time voting tends to stabilise and the score arrives at the true reflection of an item's value. The biggest issue in this is encouraging members to actually vote in order to let statistics balance things out.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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When the site appears to be slow, it's actually because there's a task runnign somewhere trying to determine how many pages you've navigated to on the site. Like voting, this number is limited, but appears to change every day. I think the delays are the result of some coplex random-number generation that itself takes a few minutes to complete.
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Banning isn't really the solution, he/she will just create a new account with different name.
Now at least we know who it is and can just ignore him / her.
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Tom Deketelaere wrote: Now at least we know who it is and can just ignore him / her.
Who are all "we"? I certainly have learned to ignore trolls. But
1. It's really tough to have everyone ignore trolls.
2. There's no excuse to have trolls run mad in the forums. They need to be kicked out.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Who are all "we"? I certainly have learned to ignore trolls. But
1. It's really tough to have everyone ignore trolls.
Well there is me, you and Pete so we'r off to a good start there
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: 2. There's no excuse to have trolls run mad in the forums. They need to be kicked out
Yeah but some are to persistent and keep coming back, besides the one- votes get countered pretty quickly so that's not really a problem.
There might be the need for some high ranking members (so not me, I'm just low level peasant around here ) to have delete rights in the normal forums as well since some if not all of these messages are aimed to cause a flame war.
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I don't count you as a low level peasant, Tom!
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC League Table Link
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Well according to our rep points I am.
You got more than 8 times the points I got.
And for any sort of system to be implemented to make this automated there has to be a value assigned and that would be the rep point system.
Unless Chris hand picks the moderators of course
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Apart from being a complete dimwit, the creature is posting numerous messages that are offensive in nature, and sometimes that result in a flamewa
Perhaps if people paid attention to my posting yesterday they'd stop trying to engage with the troll. As it stands, they are playing his game and this is pure entertainment for him. If people ignore him then the problem will eventually go away by itself.
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Pete, I respect your opinion and in fact I do share that very sentiment with you. However, do you think that it's entirely possible to have everyone ignore trolls? If people were going to do that, we'd have CSS gone away by now.
While ignoring those lowly creatures may be an excellent solution, it's hard to have everyone do it; and, we need to clean up this chaos as and when needed. Many of them just don't return after a ban anyways. With persistent trolls though, it's a different story.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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The real problem is that people like to look good, and baiting a troll is a way to gain kudos in the forums. It's easy to play for laughs and to pander to the crowd. It's also precisely the wrong reaction to take - if Chris bans the user then they can generally come back in another guise. Banning, in this case, has absolutely no effect other than to make the troll think he has won.
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So just because it's hard to ignore a troll means we should give up and have me play whack-a-mole with them?
Personally I prefer to let people either
a) Use their heads and just walk away. I mean, really: how hard is that. Really.
b) use the "vote to remove message" button.
You can lead a horse to water, I guess...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: You can lead a horse to water
but a pencil must be lead.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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