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Re: QA Responses Guidelines Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 6:12 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 6:12  the problem is, you can't really add answers to comments that should be answers... Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: QA Responses Guidelines #realJSOP10-Jun-10 6:38 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 6:38  I would comment, but I'm afraid of the answers I'd get. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: QA Responses Guidelines Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 6:57 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 6:57  words of wisdom. Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: QA Responses Guidelines Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 6:11 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 6:11  pretty soon we will get defamed for using the R word... Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Rep points question Hans Dietrich10-Jun-10 3:21 Hans Dietrich 10-Jun-10 3:21  Do we need a special forum just for people to vent/suggest/question their rep points? I mean, this is getting just as bad as sports in the Lounge. Get a life, guys. Most people don't give a flying hamster. If you weren't pestering Chris with this drivel, maybe he could be working on some really important stuff, like, I dunno, how about....? Best wishes, Hans [Hans Dietrich Software] Re: Rep points question Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 3:50 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 3:50  I mostly agree; you should note however it was Chris who invented (or borrowed?) the rep stuff. And adding clarifications to the rep FAQ would reduce these continuous questions and discussions... Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: Rep points question Hans Dietrich10-Jun-10 3:54 Hans Dietrich 10-Jun-10 3:54  I realize that. I just want to stop the deluge of posts in this forum. If you like the idea of a separate forum, please let Chris know. Best wishes, Hans [Hans Dietrich Software] Re: Rep points question #realJSOP10-Jun-10 4:34 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 4:34  I don't hhink it needs its own forum. I think the FAQs could use some sprucing up. In fact, the site needs a centralized FAQ page that links to all of the FAQs, and a link to that page should be placed just above the "Articles" section on the left-side menu. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Rep points question Chris Maunder10-Jun-10 4:39 Chris Maunder 10-Jun-10 4:39  Something like the "FAQ" link in the Help menu that points to http://www.codeproject.com/KB/FAQs/[^]? cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: Rep points question Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 4:47 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 4:47  So you discovered that one too? It is good. Some loopholes in the rep FAQ are causing lots of redundant questions as of late though. Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: Rep points question #realJSOP10-Jun-10 5:01 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 5:01  Yeah, I already know about that, but the new guys aren't apparently able to find it. Maybe new users should be required to read the FAQs before posting anything on the site. That way, they can't say they "didn't know" the rules. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Rep points question Hans Dietrich10-Jun-10 4:52 Hans Dietrich 10-Jun-10 4:52  Gimme a break, John. A Wikipedia-sized FAQ wouldn't address some of the questions about rep points. I don't have anything against rep points (or the pursuit thereof); I'm just tired of seeing them whenever I read this forum. Where are my rep points for [ voting up | voting down | not voting ]? How come my rep points [ went up | went down | stayed the same ]? Do I get more rep points during the week or on weekends? Je suis Canadien. Dois-je obtenir des points rep plus? Why aren't man-points included in my total rep points? ... I'm sick of them. PLEASE put them in their own forum. Best wishes, Hans [Hans Dietrich Software] Re: Rep points question #realJSOP10-Jun-10 5:04 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 5:04  Hans Dietrich wrote: Why aren't man-points included in my total rep points? Hey, that was an important one... And you forgot this one: If I were alone in the woods and got down-voted, would I still lose reputation points? And in truth, no amount of "fixing" any of the help/FAQs on the site would fix this problem. I think Chris may be better off replacing all that text with a single statement: "We make it up as we go." .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Rep points question Rajesh R Subramanian10-Jun-10 4:55 Rajesh R Subramanian 10-Jun-10 4:55  I'm completely with you on that. There's no single page on the suggestion board these days without someone asking something about rep points. Workout progress: Current arm size: 14.4in Desired arm size: 18in Next Target: 15.4in by Dec 2010 Current training method: HIT Re: Rep points question Sandeep Mewara10-Jun-10 5:01 Sandeep Mewara 10-Jun-10 5:01  So do you want to say, we should change the title of the thread to: 'Reputation Points' sucks today(or just sucks...)! Re: Rep points question Hans Dietrich10-Jun-10 5:04 Hans Dietrich 10-Jun-10 5:04  No, it's more like, If I see one more post about rep points I'm going to toss my cookies. Best wishes, Hans [Hans Dietrich Software] Message Voting Reputation Points #realJSOP10-Jun-10 2:26 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 2:26  What are the point totals? To my mind the following would be the right way: Vote Points<br/> 5 5<br/> 4 3<br/> 3 1<br/> 2 -1<br/> 1 -2 However, a user has noted that a vote of 3 gains him -2 points. Is 3 truly the new 1? .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 2:52 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 2:52  that should be explained on the FAQ page, but it isn't. The FAQ only deals with upvoting and downvoting. In an earlier answer to some question I once stated that 4 and 5 were 'up', 1 and 2 were 'down' (implying 3 was doing nothing rep-wise), and Chris confirmed. It still matches my observations. I wish each such question in suggs&bugs would lead to an improvement of the documentation, here the FAQ page. That would reduce the number of times we get the same questions asked here, and allow for shorter answers to them too. Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: Message Voting Reputation Points #realJSOP10-Jun-10 2:57 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 2:57  Luc Pattyn wrote: implying 3 was doing nothing rep-wise But that's obviously not the case, as demonstrated in the associated lounge thread. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Luc Pattyn10-Jun-10 3:03 Luc Pattyn 10-Jun-10 3:03  I think that observation was not correct. One should not try and observe rep effects on people that are participating in a very recent Lounge thread, too many things are happening at once. Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets. I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page). Re: Message Voting Reputation Points #realJSOP10-Jun-10 4:36 #realJSOP 10-Jun-10 4:36  Wel, it looked to me like a vote of 3 results in a points deduction, and I don't understand why that would be the case. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Tom Deketelaere10-Jun-10 3:18 Tom Deketelaere 10-Jun-10 3:18  All I know is that the vote's are weighed according to rep points from the voter. For instance when I vote someone a 5 there rep will go up with 10 points. I can only imagine how much the reputation will go up when you vote a 5 but it should be a lot more. Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Thiru Thirunavukarasu10-Jun-10 4:47 Thiru Thirunavukarasu 10-Jun-10 4:47  A 3-vote is essentially a non-vote. No points are given or taken away from the author. Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Tom Deketelaere10-Jun-10 5:01 Tom Deketelaere 10-Jun-10 5:01  Then how come in earlier tests a vote of 3 did change the reputation of the receiver. It was in a forum post tho not on a article (does that make a difference?) Re: Message Voting Reputation Points Chris Maunder10-Jun-10 5:20 Chris Maunder 10-Jun-10 5:20  We've simplified it so that there is either up-vote (5,4), down-vote (1,2), or I-can't-decide-vote (3). If a member gets a vote of 3 and loses rep then we have a bug. cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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