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When member B votes member A's message up in a programming forum, in the Lounge, etc. two things should happen in the rep department:
1. A gets rep points (number and category depend on some factors) for being up-voted;
2. B is supposed to get 1 organiser point (within some limits).
The first part works pretty well, except for too many messages not being regarded as answers due to a bad choice of default icon, resulting in lots of Debator points that should have been Authority points. Soit. That is a minor mistake in view of the other one:
I can tell now for sure, the second part does not happen: B is not getting his Organiser point. It is A who is getting the Organiser point!
I have tested with an answer in C# and a general message in Lounge, B's rep did not move at all, A gained 6 points on each occasion, 5 in authority or Debator, and 1 in Organiser.
In all likelihood this mistake (I assume that's what it is as I fail to see the logic, and it is not in accordance with the rules here[^]) got introduced some 3 weeks ago when a lot of people suddenly lost a lot of Organiser points (and maybe a color grade too) at the then recalculation, as first reported here[^].
I am still recovering from that hit. And I want my points back! Let there be justice.
TIA
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There is no justice. There is only hamster.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Those hamsters have turned into greedy green gremlins now. A disciplinary whip is in order; and please keep them dry, they must not get wet. Not Ever.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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Well...you got a 50:50 chance there of something good coming out:
1) They multiply, thus giving Chris more hamsters to abuse
2) Wet hamster fur smell. Eyw.
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A reply to a question give an authority point, but a reply to a reply is a debate point.
Seems logical.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Dalek Dave wrote: a reply to a reply is a debate point.
It probably is, most of the time, in non-programming forums; and occasionally in programming forums too.
However, quite often a programming forum thread is a technical discussion where, in a simple case, a question gets answered with a real answer or a request for extra information, then new information is provided and/or a new question is added, etc. So it is often a Q-A-Q-A-Q-A sequence, however by default only the first two get a significant default icon; all the others, whatever their intent or content, are "General" by default and hence qualified Debator material. Here[^] is an example.
Manually setting the message type to Question resp. Answer (as I did on this occasion, to no effect, which is normal, as this is Lounge) suffices to change the qualification, but is easily forgotten. Modifying the message type in a later edit, has no direct consequences (not sure if it has after a recalculation, I think not).
But that is all minor, as I said before. Giving the points to the right or wrong person is the issue.
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Sorry, I remember now, yes it looks the same.
[ADDED]
But then Chris seemed unsure about what exactly you were reporting.
I took a note then, decided to investigate a bit; did my experiments, and reported the results here.
I should have included a link to your original message. Sorry for that.
[/ADDED]
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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modified on Thursday, June 3, 2010 8:24 AM
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Sorry, I remember now, yes it looks the same.
Thats fine... sorry not required! It's good you too noticed it, now it will bigger impact on Chris 
Luc Pattyn wrote: But then Chris seemed unsure about what exactly you were reporting.
Yep! but in response exchanges, i clarified the exact thing to him. I think it must be in his queue. It's just lots of things are in his queue... but soon...
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Luc,
Thanks for digging into this more. We've already flagged this as a bug and we're just waiting for a chance to dig in and fix it before re-running the rep-history script.
TechEd is next week so unfortunately we're all a little slammed at the moment. However, your points are safe.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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No worries.
Please make sure you leave ample food for the critters.
And have fun.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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Hope mine points too and others ofcourse! 
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Hi Admins,
Is there anyway to stop spamming messages or block the spammers?
I am one of the victim by the group/member: joeabcd[^] in one of my article forum: Silverlight 4: Interoperability with Excel using the COM Object[^]. You can find a no. of posts by this group posting ADS for Nike Shop. Is there anyway to delete such messages or mark the user/group as SPAM?
If this feature is not available in CodeProject, can you please work on that and make the site SPAM FREE?
Thank you.
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Thanks for letting us know.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This guy has started spamming in Q&A. I just deleted his Nike ad links from one answer and one comment.
All yours!
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Thanks Chris and Sandeep for taking action to that spammer.
Don't forget to Click on [Vote] and [Good Answer] on the posts that helped you.
Regards - Kunal Chowdhury | Software Developer | Chennai | India | My Blog | My Tweets | Silverlight Tutorial
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Few days back, I was going through the forums blazingly fast and 5'ing any post I found it deserves. Then I got the dreaded message "You or someone at your IP address has been voting too often. Please wait a moment and try again". After sometimes, my voting rights was restored but my rep points seems stuck where they were. Do we get penalized for instigating the dreaded message? Do I have to sit in the corner for few days now? 
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yes.
no.
as penance you will study The Table[^] carefully.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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Luc Pattyn wrote: as penance you will study The Table[^] carefully.
I'm aware of the daily limits. Once the limit is reached no further points can be awarded.
May be I failed to clearly explain in my original post that, my rep points have been frozen for days now. Say if I sign in daily I don't get any 'Participant' points. If I undertake any action that rewards for 'Organiser' I get zip, nada, zero, Ciro... This has been happing for few days now.
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Most of the rep points seem to work properly.
Participants should typically grow one per day.
However I do have a strong impression Organiser points are very wrong right now (and probably have been for more than 3 weeks now); I need time however to diagnose and proof, before I post in sucks&bugs.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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organiser rep point problem now tested and bug reported here[^].
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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That proves my head is in the "normal working range"  I was going crazy as the rep point did not make sense to me. Now it makes. Thansk
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Yusuf wrote: Do I have to sit in the corner for few days now?
Hey and put that dunce cap back on, will ya'.
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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Chris Meech wrote: dunce cap back on
<dunce cap on>
</dunce cap on>
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The Dunces Cap
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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