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Christian Graus26-Mar-08 23:45
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I'm sorry to say that you've proven my point. You've used VB.NET for one year ? A computer science course takes 3-4 years, and you list no other languages, how much of the one year of your life that you've known how to write a bit of code, were you paid for it ? You're obvioulsy learning ASP.NET by taking paid projects in it, that is just plain disgusting, but not surprising, given the bad experiences I've had with Indian outsourcing companies.

As far as I can see, a lot of outsourcing firms hire people who have no idea, and then expect the people in the West who are losing their jobs as a result, to do their work, on the basis of their inability and unwillingness to buy books, use google, and spend some time learning before they expect to be paid for their efforts.

I am always happy to help people, that's why I am here. But, the direction our industry is taking is upsetting to me. I take solace in the fact that outsourcing companies are still offering poor quality of code and inexperienced workers, I feel sure I'm not going to see my job threatened, but I feel equally sure that in the eyes of those stupid enough to use outsourcing companies, what I do is being devalued.

You refer to me as a senior person. I can tell you for sure, that if I interviewed someone for an ASP.NET position, and they didn't know the things you obviously didn't know from your first post, I would not even consider them. I would probably tell war stories about the person who needed to be in college, not trying to be paid for their efforts. But, you are not alone. The double tragedy is that people where I live can't find good developers, I know of many companies that cannot find a skilled dev because people have left computer science, wrongly thinking there would be no work. I have recently been paid $80 an hour by a company that can't find skilled worker locally, and have tried to outsource briefly and found just what a nightmare it is for all but the most menial tasks. That's $166,000 a year, less than I earn, but 3 times what the average developer used to make around here.

So, please don't tell me what the right way is to talk. I've helped you, and I've also tried to make you realise just how far you have to go before you can hold your head up high when asking to be paid for writing ASP.NET code. My desire in doing this is to inspire you to actually rise above the standards of those around you, and do some study, to become an actual software engineer, able to do research, able to understand the frameworks you are using, able to do your job without bringing your most basic questions here. I know that often I don't tell people what they want to hear around here, but I always try to tell them what they need to hear, if they are to stand any chance of making it as developers. I'm trying to help people, not win their friendship. It's sad that nowadays I have to choose between those two things sometimes.

Christian Graus

Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you

"also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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