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Strangely, the 'advertising in signatures' post below has not been voted on. I'll give it a 1, you give it a 5 and see where you end up.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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Dang. It already had two votes by the time I saw this. 
I guess someone else with similar seniority as me voted John's post a 5, since it now has 2 votes and is a 4.5.
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Well, people tend to vote my articles based on the voter's politics (and this is verifiable by anyone that's been here for any length of time) - a good example is the article I wrote about making cells blink in Chris' grid control. But there are many articles where people say "If it was formatted better...", or "I'll vote after you improve it..."
Votes are already weighted based on the membership level the voter has attained.
I don't thin they track who submits a vote.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: people tend to vote my articles based on the voter's politics
I don't vote by politics. That is a lame approach. I vote by the content regardless of it usefulness for me.
Good content + good effort = 5 vote 
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What are the rules for "advertising" in signatures on this site?
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The Grand Negus wrote: What are the rules for "advertising" in signatures on this site?
A big no-no. You'll get flamed big time.
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PaulC1972 wrote: The Grand Negus wrote:
What are the rules for "advertising" in signatures on this site?
A big no-no. You'll get flamed big time.
Are we on the same site? Just a glance at the Lounge reveals:
Judah Humango and Gary Kirkham advertising their blogs;
Christopher Duncan pushing his books and his consultancy;
Peter Chen promoting cancer research;
Dario Solera announcing his upgraded wiki;
Toxcct campaigning for his articles;
Chris Losinger selling image processing programs; and
Nishant Sivakumar telling us about his new book...
With no "big time flaming" in sight.
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The Grand Negus wrote: Judah Humango and Gary Kirkham advertising their blogs;
Christopher Duncan pushing his books and his consultancy;
Peter Chen promoting cancer research;
Dario Solera announcing his upgraded wiki;
Toxcct campaigning for his articles;
Chris Losinger selling image processing programs; and
Nishant Sivakumar telling us about his new book...
They don't look like out to make a sale. But I know you are with Osmosian Order and we've all been down this road before 
Go ahead and advertise the Plain English compiler and see what happens
I am willing to give the Osmosian guys another chance 
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The Grand Negus wrote: Toxcct campaigning for his articles;
you perfect moron. My articles are on CodeProject... What the hell is the problem with you bastard ????
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toxcct wrote: you perfect moron. My articles are on CodeProject...
And great articles they are
toxcct wrote: What the hell is the problem with you bastard ????
He's probably chapped that his Plain English articles were removed some time ago when he started his trolling crap 
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PaulC1972 wrote: A big no-no. You'll get flamed big time.
I've never seen anyone flamed for an advert in a signature.
I advertise events in mine all the time. Some of them I'm personally involved in putting the event together. Others are events that the other core members of Scottish Developers are arranging.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I advertise events in mine all the time. Some of them I'm personally involved in putting the event together. Others are events that the other core members of Scottish Developers are arranging.
I think those are really cool. I do check them out. If I had the time and money to come to Scotland, I'd definitely attend  On second thought, my dad-in-law is wanting the family to take a trip to Scotland with him. I think summer 2008 or 2009 
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Many people put a simple link to their web site in their signatures. If you keep it simple and unobtrusive, and the main reason for your post is something other than promoting your product I personally do not have a problem with it. Just look at some of the signatures that are used around the site such as this one[^].
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --
Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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Well, so far the answer is very unclear. I've got PaulC1972 telling me it's "a big no-no" and you saying that you "do not have a problem with it".
I think we need a definitive reply from the powers that be.
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The Grand Negus wrote: so far the answer is very unclear. I've got PaulC1972 telling me it's "a big no-no" and you saying that you "do not have a problem with it".
Go ahead and try. I would like to make the suggestion of using some creativity (my sigs could probably use a little more zip :-> ). I don't know what the general response from members is going to be. I'd stay conservative on what is in the sig. Try like Mr. Duncan's and others
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Yep. I used to advertise the Latex Appendage Suit (tm) in my sig, and nobody said anything about it (other than to request pictures of the apparel).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: request pictures of the apparel
No harm there. Not like you advertise it to being the only solution like how the Plain English Compiler is rammed down people's throats in the old Osmosian posts.
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It's an inside joke for long-time CP members.
I never advertised it, but it was the topic of several discussions.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It's an inside joke for long-time CP members.
I never advertised it, but it was the topic of several discussions.
Thanks for clearing me up on that. Now I know
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Including a link to your product or service in your sig is fine as long as it doesn't make your posts blatant ads for your product.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Including a link to your product or service in your sig is fine as long as it doesn't make your posts blatant ads for your product.
Thanks, Chris. I was trying to say that I guess if the posts are blatant then the flaming begins
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Chris Maunder wrote: Including a link to your product or service in your sig is fine as long as it doesn't make your posts blatant ads for your product.
Case in point. A guy complains in the Lounge that he just spent several hours installing Visual Studio and associated components, fixes, etc. I express my opinion: "That seems unreasonable to me - development systems should be small, efficient, and easy to install." This remark is followed by a link (in my signature) to an exemplary development system that is small, efficient, and easy to install.
Is that a blatant ad?
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Using replies as opportunities to talk about your own product when the original reply had nothing whatsoever to do with your product is simply self-promotion.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Using replies as opportunities to talk about your own product when the original reply had nothing whatsoever to do with your product is simply self-promotion.
Would also start a flame war. This would disrupt the peace and harmony in the forums
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Chris Maunder wrote: Using replies as opportunities to talk about your own product when the original reply had nothing whatsoever to do with your product is simply self-promotion.
But it's not myself that I'm promoting, or even this particular product. It's ideas that we're promoting. Like the idea that development systems shouldn't require hours of installation, or the idea that websites shouldn't be so cluttered that people find it difficult to locate the "discuss" button. Or the idea that hierarchical forums create as many problems as they solve (weirdness included). I've got a million of 'em. And yes, our products are examples of how things might be done instead, but even if I didn't have a product, those would still be my opinions. The product simply adds credibility to those opinions, and makes them "constructive criticism" instead of just "criticism".
Are you saying I shouldn't express my opinions here because we've taken the time to develop an example application that embodies those opinions? There's so much of me and my philosophy in the Plain English IDE that it would really be hard to say anything without at least an implicit reference to that tangible manifestation of my beliefs. Should I just express the opinions and leave the signature off? What do you recommend?
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