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Christopher Duncan19-Feb-02 6:35
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Actually, while learning is always a Good Thing, there might be a point of diminishing returns with certifications, etc. Admittedly, living in the US I'm ignorant of the job market realities in Brazil, but here in the States I've found that the primary thing employers care about are, "Do you know what you're doing with this technology, and can you meet the deadlines?". I have no college, no certifications (and probably a serious lack of common sense), but I haven't missed a meal in 12 years of working in this biz.

I think the comments about your games were well said. I do in fact put personal projects on my resume if they demonstrate experience with a technology. Of course, I also have a Far Side cartoon at the bottom of my resume. They may love me or they may hate me, but they always remember I was there...

In any event, most programmers excel in the technical, but never spend near as much time learning the skills that they need to navigate the corporate world and market themselves. It may not be right and it may not be fair, but more often than not the person who gets the job is not necessarily the most technically adept, but the one who knew how to play the game.

"But I'm a programmer - I shouldn't have to deal with marketing and politics!" True enough, I suppose, but irrelevant just the same. This is the business world. Logic doesn't apply.


Chistopher Duncan
Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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