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It did help...thank you
Gary Kirkham
Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot
Me blog, You read
-- modified at 14:07 Thursday 13th October, 2005
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You're welcome! I'm glad I could help... on a four-months old thread 
BTW, how did you end up here?
-- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos
Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005
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Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: BTW, how did you end up here?
message board search using the word "restart" 
Gary Kirkham
Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot
Me blog, You read
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I am executing a program on the machine using the following code:
Process p = new Process();
p.StartInfo.FileName = "applicationname.exe";
p.StartInfo.CreateNoWindow = true;
p.StartInfo.UseShellExecute = false;
p.Start();
p.WaitForExit();
p.Dispose();
If this program should crash for some reason (which it does at times), the OS will show the standard window that says the program has performed an illegal operation and must close. I realize that the real solution here would be to fix the bug in this third-party application, but in the mean-time I need to have my application give a friendly error message instead.
Is there anyway for my application to know when that application crashed and display appropriate instruction to the user rather than the OS giving the standard illegal operation message?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Daniel Smith
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I need to have my application give a friendly error message
Inever saw a frendly error message 
But you can catch te system message about the error a simply way:
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Process p = new Process();<br />
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try<br />
{<br />
p.StartInfo.FileName = "applicationname.exe";<br />
p.StartInfo.CreateNoWindow = true;<br />
p.StartInfo.UseShellExecute = false;<br />
p.Start();<br />
p.WaitForExit();<br />
p.Dispose();<br />
}<br />
catch(Exception ex)<br />
{<br />
MessageBox.Show("The frendly error message is:\n"+ex.Message);<br />
}<br />
Hope it's help
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That would work if it were a .net exception being thrown. However, it is not. It is a third-party win32 application that is having an error that is causing the OS to close it.
I need to be able to hide the error displayed by the operating system and show a friendly error from in my application.
Thanks!
Dan
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I have a client who writes software for the vet market. We're integrating his software ( x ray analysis ) with other vet software ( client billing ) and I import their COM objects in order to do this. Now, we've been using a pre release build for me to write this code, and they came out with the release build, and my code no longer works. I replaced the exe with the new version ( the GUIDs should not have changed ) and now the project complains that it cannot find the object to import it. In other words, I need to do a build for each version of the client COM object that exists.
There will be more versions in the future, how do I work my way around this ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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My first thought (granted, not much effort!  ) would be to write a shim .DLL for each version of the COM objects that your application calls. The shim should be written to map the calls your app makes to the appropriate COM methods.
But, after more thought, it's getting ugly. Since you don't control the GUID's, ..., oh god, what a mess! A seperate version for each COM release? How often do these updates come out? Call them up and bitch 'em out for not adhering to known good practices for COM programming!
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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It seems that they HAVE such an object, a COM server whose job it is to map to whatever version of the main exe exists. The trouble is, it's not documented, and it seems to require some additional work to do what the underlying methods did all by themselves ( that is, it blows up with errors if I call the methods in the same way, and has some security methods added that don't seem to work the way I'd like in the absence of documentation ). And the code samples they sent me don't use it, which is why I ended up doing it the way I did to start with, I built my code off their samples.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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 Sounds even worse than I thought! If they had to pull that trick to get this crap to work, you know they're patching around their own design flaws. I wish you luck with this one. I don't know how to get around this one.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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I'm able to contact them and ask for help, and they have been very helpful. But yeah, I would not have set it up like this, that's for sure.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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WIll GC only fress memory if there are other apps which needs more memory.
If there is enough free space it will not free memory. Is it right.
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Gosh - didn't I just answer this ?
In my experience, GC can be slow to occur if you don't force it, and yes, the thing that forces GC is the fact that your computer has no memory options left at all. Or you can force it yourself. This is a bad idea, you should just manage the items that you think can cause a problem. Basically, if you deal with large objects like bitmaps, you need to manage your own memory, just like you did in C++.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Ok. But I can force GC by GC.Collect().
Thanks
Devin.
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Yes, if you must. I would not recommend it though, you could hurt performance by causing the GC to run more often than it should. Just dispose of objects that you'd like collected.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Thanks this helped me a lot.
Devin
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The GC runs on it's own internally managed schedule, not necessarily only when memory starts to run low. Other factors also influence when the GC occurs. If you release lots of small objects all over the managed heap, the GC will run earlier than scheduled so it can compact the memory to make room for larger objects and/or prevent memory fragmentation. This is only one small sample of how the GC manages memory collection.
If you really want to learn the in's and out's about how the Framework manages memory, object creation/destruction, object lifetimes, how unmanged memory fits into scheme of managed memory, ..., check out this[^] article index on MSDN.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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As an aside I have found I can make much memory savings by reusing objects. Performance can go through the roof when doing that as well - or at least it did with me.
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My apps performance improved, my own personal performance remained much the same 
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Can I Set an object to null in the middle of the method, when I found that I I am done using it. Will I achieve performance.
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No, you'll simply lose that reference to the object. The garbage collecter is in charge of when it's actually deleted, and either way, there's no performance gain, unless your object is big and you're chronically short of memory ( call the objects Dispose method if this is the case, for example if you deal with images in memory ).
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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1)
But I am helping the GC telling the object has no reference, instead of GC finding itself. Is I am not gaining the performance?
2)
So I can set a large object to null to achieve performance gain
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devin123 wrote:
But I am helping the GC telling the object has no reference, instead of GC finding itself. Is I am not gaining the performance?
You're telling C# that this reference to the object is no longer required. At some point, sometime before your PC totally falls over from lack of memory, the GC will work out that no references are held, and so do garbage collection. I found out the hard way that managed DirectShow leaks memory ( I was loading video files ), and my app was running at a crawl as my memory was full and my disk drive was swapping non stop. GC had not occured.
And why would you gain performance from getting back some memory, unless you have severe memory issues already ?
devin123 wrote:
So I can set a large object to null to achieve performance gain
No, you can Dispose of it to free the memory, and then set it to null. The setting to null is actually irrelevant to performance or memory usage, it's just good coding. This will help if you're in a situation like my example above. You should do this when you have large memory objects flying around, but it will only help performance if excess memory usage is hurting it.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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But dispose only releases the resources, it does not reclaims the memory.
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I've done this, and I can assure you, it causes the memory to be released, if right away, or through encouraging the GC to release the object, I don't know. However, setting a reference to null definately doesn't do this, and will not help you in any way.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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