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phil.o wrote: Stellaris is great; they put a lot of efforts for the user to avoid micro-management (which becomes a PITA late in the game) whenever he wants to.
Except that as a Paradox game that's been out for several years, the sticker price to get the current full version is almost as high as Dwarf Fortress's learning curve.
Current prices on steam[^] are $40 for the base game, with 4 $20 expansions and a $72 bundle that combines the base and 2 expansions. Meaning you're looking at $112 to get the full featured game. There's also $64 worth of race/story addons; I'm discounting them from the full total on the assumption that they don't change base gameplay like the expansions do. My last brush with a P'dox game was a half dozen years ago when I got a several expansions behind the current release copy of the then current version of Europa Universalis; and discovered because of how out of date it was that all of the internet tutorials google surfaced were out of date, and no one on their forums remembered exactly how the game functioned/was balanced that far back to answer questions I asked.
That was the point when - despite having probably 2-3k hours between EU1, EU2, Victoria, and one of the HOI versions - I ragequit on them as developer/publisher and haven't played anything they put out. Since then, I've occasionally checked the most recent version of EU, and more recently Stelaris, as the games they make I'd be most interested in giving a try; and never seen a full buyin price of $80 (full price game + 1 expansion; the absolute max I'd be willing to spend) and continued noping away to other things.
This was a change from how they used to operate when EU2 would periodically have $60ish to the full latest version of the game sales. But at some point the bean counters tool control; and as a more casual/intermitant player of their games it's no longer possible to have the full experience without paying up at least 90% as much as they shake down their most dedicated fans for. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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That sounds a bit Paradox-ical 
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You have a point about the overall price of Paradox games if you want to get all DLCs. I'm playing the vanilla version of the game, which I bought four years ago; you don't have to buy each and every addon to have a great gaming experience.
On the other hand, Paradox edited several games I really enjoyed playing; it is not the first editor which comes into my mind when asked which ones I would avoid (when I thing about what EA made to Sim City...).
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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I bought 'Farm Together' to my kids (way too much time to burn while at home), and we all loved it...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Factorio has been a good steam game of late. Resource and pollution management, automation, and a nice modding community. There's a free demo, too.
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super wrote: I am open for any video games ( management theme). Any suggestion?
Making hats from human leather in Rimworld. Get attacked by man-hunting chickens. Tame a boomalope and have it explode in your bedroom due to flu. If that vanilla-experience sounds too tame, add some mods, like the Cthulu-mod.
Manage your colony, or, go on youtube and have fun watching others trying to.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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super wrote: I am open for any video games ( management theme). Any suggestion?
I was about to say I don't see the link between the two, but then, I've been playing Grand Theft Auto Online quite a bit lately, and the more I think about it as I'm writing this, the more I realize it turns out if you want to make some serious headway and make good money in the game, then it's all about figuring out how best to spend the time you play the game.
But that might be a stretch for "management", since this is still an action game first and foremost...
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Resting place for lizards - here? (3, 6)
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The Lounge.
(I played that game on the original EGA PC - it was truly dire, even for a callow nerdy youth as I was then).
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Glad you're well enough to read. I know it was a bit obvious but just thought to fill a small gap.
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Something always seems to go wrong when I'm due to set them on a Monday - you were my alarm clock Paul - and a stand in when I was unable to do one - glad to see you creeping back here slowly
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Sorry all I had problems at home and work ( I hate Mondays ) if it's ok with everyone I'll post one tomorrow
"We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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And it's a weird feeling. I don't fit where I used to: 7Kg of weight loss has dramatically changed the shape of my seat interface, and my legs fit under the desk a load better.
I'm not fine - don't start thinking this is over yet, it's far off "normal" - I spent 2 hours trying to get a formatted email out and failing miserably (Every time I fixed the formatting on one bit, it changed somewhere else at random). Finally decided "that'll do", sent it and found I'd sent the guy an email that consisted only of "WTF" an hour and a half earlier that I didn't intend, and don't remember writing. That needed an apology email ... and round we go!
Typing is ... um ... poor - hunt and peck is quicker than touch typing due the huge number of errors I'm making - my head is seriously muzzy, coffee tastes like ... well, frankly I'm not sure, but actual coffee is not involved at all. Gawd I hope my sense of taste improves soon - it's like I have a mouth all done out with flock wallpaper and my tongue is sitting in a hot tub in leopard-skin budgie smugglers.
I'm definitely not up to dev work, and it'll be days before I even think of trying. And until I can trust my judgement there, I'll stay well clear of QA as I'm far too easily confused by normal people to risk approaching the Special Needs Kids ATM.
I have waded through my emails - all 1733 of 'em - and have just a line of 7 pretty red "deal with this" flags to work on later instead. Not touching those yet, they need my brain working properly.
But, we are getting better, in little steps - mine faster than Herselfs, but that's to be expected, she's older, and she was seriously overworked for a few months before we went down with this.
I'd seriously like to say a huge "THANK YOU!" to everyone here who has put up with my intermittent disease progress reports, and everyone who sent us messages of support and kindness. You know who you are and we love you all!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Quote: Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
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You're showing your age (and mine too). 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I'm justified and ancient !
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I was literally writing you an email to see how you're going so thank you so much for the update.
Take it easy and at the first sign of anything going downhill - anything - call your doctor. Too many stories (but putting in perspective, probably still highly unlikely) of people feeling better then 24hrs later it's all very, very bad very suddenly.
We've all been thinking about you at CodeProject so it seems like we're stuck with you for a while longer.
Thank goodness. I owe you a pint, and dammit, I'm paying that debt as soon as possible.
And bonus points for the use of the term budgie smugglers.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I am very glad to see there is progress. This virus is something, isn't it? Keep up the progress! We are all rooting for you! All the best to Her as well. 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thanks are totally unnecessary. We just want to hear that you are both getting better.
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Welcome back, glad you're feeling somewhat better!
When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know.
But if you listen, you may learn something new.
--Dalai Lama
JaxCoder.com
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Glad to hear about you.
The most important thing is to do the steps in the correct direction, no hurry. One after another.
Looking forward to read "it's over" soon
Take care
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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