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GeneralFree time - Suggestions? Pin
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Dan Neely11-May-20 2:40
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phil.o wrote:
Stellaris is great; they put a lot of efforts for the user to avoid micro-management (which becomes a PITA late in the game) whenever he wants to.


Except that as a Paradox game that's been out for several years, the sticker price to get the current full version is almost as high as Dwarf Fortress's learning curve.

Current prices on steam[^] are $40 for the base game, with 4 $20 expansions and a $72 bundle that combines the base and 2 expansions. Meaning you're looking at $112 to get the full featured game. There's also $64 worth of race/story addons; I'm discounting them from the full total on the assumption that they don't change base gameplay like the expansions do. My last brush with a P'dox game was a half dozen years ago when I got a several expansions behind the current release copy of the then current version of Europa Universalis; and discovered because of how out of date it was that all of the internet tutorials google surfaced were out of date, and no one on their forums remembered exactly how the game functioned/was balanced that far back to answer questions I asked.

That was the point when - despite having probably 2-3k hours between EU1, EU2, Victoria, and one of the HOI versions - I ragequit on them as developer/publisher and haven't played anything they put out. Since then, I've occasionally checked the most recent version of EU, and more recently Stelaris, as the games they make I'd be most interested in giving a try; and never seen a full buyin price of $80 (full price game + 1 expansion; the absolute max I'd be willing to spend) and continued noping away to other things.

Dead | X|

This was a change from how they used to operate when EU2 would periodically have $60ish to the full latest version of the game sales. But at some point the bean counters tool control; and as a more casual/intermitant player of their games it's no longer possible to have the full experience without paying up at least 90% as much as they shake down their most dedicated fans for. Sigh | :sigh:
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