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It's OK to say "Sorry, I don't know"
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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That, however, wasn't my point. I was giving you what I felt to be help.
It's what I did.
It is what they pay me for at this time, and half of the company runs on it, and it's still increasing.
Now if you absolutely wanted a live teacher, and had expressed that in your first reply, I'd have understood that.
My answer was pointing you in a direction of something that accomplished all of your tasks but didn't supply face-time with an instructor.
Not to worry - just ignore everything I wrote.
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I understand what you posted, it's just not relevant to my question. I know how to use Google, but I asked about a specific style of training. Telling me about Google doesn't in any way answer my question.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Please tell me in which of my posts I mentioned Google.
I seem to have missed it. I only referenced, W3Schools, a site full of boot-strap level tutorials.
It is now clear why you need a strong hand to guide you . . .
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Sorry, I meant w3schools.. But it's still a web based approach, which is what I am specifically NOT trying for.
W∴ Balboos wrote: I seem to have missed it. I only referenced, W3Schools, a site full of boot-strap level tutorials.
Again, not at all what I asked about.
W∴ Balboos wrote: It is now clear why you need a strong hand to guide you
What a dumb thing to say.
Why don't we just leave it at that. You didn't answer my question and I'm not at all interested in arguing about your approach.
Have a nice day.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Kevin Marois wrote: a web based approach, which is what I am specifically NOT trying for.
The title of your OP says otherwise. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Some people can only learn with a live person to force ideas down their throat (not implying Kevin is one). This is one of my major gripes with college. All it teaches you is to be force-fed and regurgitate that onto tests which is the antithesis of the most important traits for software development in my opinion - problem-solving and critical-thinking.
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Maybe the wrong schools and the wrong times?
Most notably, in graduate school, we all had to write a research proposal that was completely unrelated to what we were doing. And both that, and later on, the thesis oral exam, would include challenge questions from the faculty. Sometimes they were wrong and knew it: would you stand up on your own two legs and argue back? Sometime, in fact, they were even wrong. Your turn to teach them. Actually, ditto for each students research presentation - it was actually something they were looking for.
On the other hand, my experiences in psych 101/102 fully agree with your case. That, however, isn't science, so I don't count it for anything.
Problem solving and critical thinking: The former? I think that's heavily an inborn ability, for a good problem solver has imagination; the latter, a sign of confidence that what you heard/read isn't to be taken without a thought.
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Kevin Marois wrote: I know how to use Google
Coulda fooled us. 
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Um, what??
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Sorry, I don't know.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Best beginner tutorial I've ever seen! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I don't find a translation (e.g. google translate or leo) for this (copy pasted from ASTM norm pdf)
"rectification"
but this is ok
"rectification"
To test you need to copy paste the two candidates into the translator.
Took me some minutes to find out why.
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I blame Unicode.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I blame myself not to think about that 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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????
If there's a special character in one than it didn't make it through the cut-and-paste.
If it identified one or the other as other than English (Google took a shot at French at one point) then you just got to look more carefully.
Or, perhaps you just need to feed your mouse?
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Have a look to the source code of the post 
The same can maybe happens to you e.g. german "ä", French "è" spanish "ñ" in case the translator does not "normalize" the Input.
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In the source it is, indeed, the fi character. On my screen, where I copy/pasted to google, however, they're both the same (and the same length - which would have been a hint).
I can't decide if my post was right or wrong.
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Quote: I can't decide if my post was right or wrong.
Also no Need for that. You posted your experience and I posted my experience.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: If there's a special character in one than it didn't make it through the cut-and-paste.
Yes it did - that's not an "fi" in the first version, it's an "fi": Unicode Character 'LATIN SMALL LIGATURE FI' (U+FB01)[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Called a ligature, if I recall correctly from High School printing shop class.
But, both worked in my Google translate. Separately and together.
I based my reply on the evidence presented to me.
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Quote: Called a ligature
Thanks for this. Never heard from that, but first readings in wiki is interesting.
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