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I understand your viewpoint regarding software, but I don't agree with it in broad strokes. The computer industry at large is an obsolescence vortex and software isn't immune. My $0.02. And win7 isn't supported by MS anymore, AFAIK. Neither is VB6, which goes to my point. Something goes wrong, you're out of luck. It's legacy.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: There's no longer any need for COM, but that doesn't mean that it will all be replaced within a day.
We're not talking a day. I worked at Microsoft in the early aughts when Whidbey shipped. I was on that team. Back then they should have started the migration to managed code.
They haven't even begun.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Something goes wrong, you're out of luck. It's legacy.
Ehr, no, the Dutch government simply buys extended support.
honey the codewitch wrote: They haven't even begun.
That's why they the standard. You don't rewrite and kill your working and selling product.
You build on what you have.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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The could provide managed wrappers instead of forcing you to use the grotty COM interfaces.
And true, there is extended support, I'll grant you that, but it's still legacy. Old software TCO goes up. All of the sudden you're paying more money. Software rusts. 
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honey the codewitch wrote: The could provide managed wrappers instead of forcing you to use the grotty COM interfaces.
They could, but they'll focus on what makes sense financially.
honey the codewitch wrote: All of the sudden you're paying more money. Software rusts.
Support rusts, software doesn't.
Windows actually makes a big issue out of that; you can still run some very old software on modern windows. It runs xhack, The Secret of Monkey Island, and a lot more oldies.
That's why they popular. Not because of the new and sexy UI, or because of the improvements. But because what worked yesterday will still work tomorrow.
honey the codewitch wrote: Old software TCO goes up.
Another myth; if you need changes to a program, written in a language that no-one uses anymore, then yes, more expensive then what the current youngsters learn. Lots of old software doesn't change, meaning the TCO for that year is nada. The Secret of Monkey Island hasn't cost me money in years.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Another myth; if you need changes to a program, written in a language that no-one uses anymore, then yes, more expensive then what the current youngsters learn. Lots of old software doesn't change, meaning the TCO for that year is nada.
Not if you suddenly have to pay for support.
Real programmers use butterflies
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It's never suddenly, and good software hardly needs "support".
Can't remember last time I called MS for support on using Windows, VS, or Sql Server. Nor the Secret of Monkey Island.
Those old games don't require updates either.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Do spiny creatures need a hedgehug?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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No one can hug them because they are super Sonic!
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Sharp criticizem, and echidna not:
Quill you tell us the point of that question?
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Didn't realize you were so sharp.
It's been 6 months since I joined the gym and there's been no progress. I'm going there tomorrow in person to find out what's really going on!
JaxCoder.com
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What do porcupines pine for?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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This made my day. Thanks. 
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Just be thankful they didn't list under butthole as a service.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Just be thankful they didn't list under butthole as a service.
BaaS? Sounds like something related to sheep.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Requirements:
• 64-bit Microsoft® Windows®
• 3.0 GHz or greater CPU, 4 or more cores
• Memory: 20 GB RAM or more
• Graphics: 4 GB GPU with 106 GB/S Bandwidth and DirectX 11 compliant
• Display Resolution: 3840 x 2160 (4K); Preferred scaling: 100%, 125%, 150% or 200%
• Pointing Device: MS-Mouse compliant (3DConnexion 3D Mouse optional)
• Productivity: 3DConnexion SpaceMouse®, driver version 10.5.12 or later
• Wellington boots
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That's the added value of "free"; more buttholes should be registered.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Last night I had a dream. Don't remember much but from it but I know there was a Dutch class somewhere close as I could hear one person speaking Dutch alphabets and students reciting it. When I was half awake half asleep, I could still hear that sound of classroom. Which I found weird. I concentrated a little and noticed that it was our son's breathing sound (who has cold and blocked nose so is breathing heavily while asleep). My brain was reading these sounds and somehow changing it to classroom sound. I then wondered if I could hear that class room sound again and I could!
It was spooky and interesting.
And no, there was no alcohol (or any other stuff) involved.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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This is not dutch. This was parseltongue and he was actually summoning a deamon.
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But I was already next to him.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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don't be afraid. your son is being guided and kept safe through this trial.
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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Slightly related:
My ex-wife's father was Dutch, so she could speak the Dutch language. In her late teens, as a student, she had summer jobs at the tourist information office. When a group of tourists arrived, she could understand their chatting, but it was not in any language she knew. Or knew that she knew...
They talked to her in English, not revealing their nationality. Later, she concluded that they must have been from South Africa, speaking Afrikaans, which is halfway between a strange Dutch dialect and a language of its own.
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It is interesting how the mind works. My grandfather used to call it midnight engineering...go to sleep thinking about a problem and wake up with a solution.
The other night it happened to me. I saw a 3d int array floating in space. Each point had either a 0 or a sub-account id. I implemented it yesterday as a lookup array.  (worked the first time too!) Maybe I should get more sleep!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I was asleep and dreaming once, where in my dream I was listening to another person who told a joke. I had never heard that joke before and the joke was funny. Somehow in my dream state, I realized that I was dreaming and realized the profoundness of the situation. I woke up and have pondered this many times since.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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