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Don't remember that one - I must have missed it[^].
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Yeah, naturally[^]!
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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This[^] was always a favorite.
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Not even fined here, and that's fine 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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(No, not the conference; the site where you could report bugs directly to Microsoft so they could be ignored for years before being closed as "by design".)
Am I the only one who missed the announcement where Microsoft told us that "Connect" was being shut down at the beginning of January? 
After nearly 10 years, Microsoft Connect has been retired in favor of new tools and services that will continue to allow you to engage with Microsoft. If you are a member of an active Connect program, your program has either closed or moved to one of these tools or services.
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DevDiv / Visual Studio and .NET Framework (Connect Site ID 210)
Please contact vsconn@microsoft.com for the status of the program.
So now we've lost the complete history of bug reports and workarounds, including any active bugs that hadn't been fixed yet. And the replacement is ... nothing?! 
I know the site had it's problems; but this seems like a particularly bone-headed move.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Connect?
Hmm, never heard of it or used it. 
-- rants are the vehicle of the lazy and uninspired - JSOP 2/2018
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Then you missed a treat!
You could report a bug, which was clearly a bug, and it would be closed as "by design". (When it first started, us mere mortals were able to re-open bug reports. But MS quickly put a stop to that!)
You could report a bug, provide step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce it, and then a support drone would close it as "not reproducible" because they hadn't read the instructions.
You could report a bug, provide step-by-step instructions *and* attach a project to reproduce it, and it would be closed as "postponed" because "it's too late to fix it for the next release". Needless to say, once that release was out of the way, the bug report would never be looked at again.
And sometimes, if the stars were aligned just right, you managed to attract enough votes to your bug report, and your luck was in - sometimes, the bug might get fixed five or six years after you reported it.
Did I mention that it wasn't perfect? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: if the stars were aligned just right,
I found this to be effective for most of life's troubles. Rare, but effective.
Richard Deeming wrote: Did I mention that it wasn't perfect?
Hey, you win some, you lose some. Who is really ever perfect?
-- rants are the vehicle of the lazy and uninspired - JSOP 2/2018
modified 15-Feb-18 13:34pm.
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Richard Deeming wrote:
And sometimes, if the stars were aligned just right, you managed to attract enough votes to your bug report, and your luck was in - sometimes, the bug might get fixed five or six years after you reported it.
Sounds about right.
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Richard Deeming wrote: So now we've lost the complete history of bug reports and workarounds, including any active bugs that hadn't been fixed yet.
It saves time! Imagine how much easier than closing them one by one...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Richard Deeming wrote: including any active bugs that hadn't been fixed yet
that cant be true?
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I guess it's possible that Microsoft have a copy of them somewhere. But it's 1½ months since that page was updated, and there's still no sign of the replacement for Visual Studio / .NET Framework bugs.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I once reported a bug with a GDI thing and it took three OS releases before it was fixed. I guess it was a low priority and someone got bored and decided to fix it. Or, possibly, an ambitious intern saw the bug report and decided to tackle it.
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Does this mean they will quit pestering me every time I open SSMS?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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It looks like they decided to break it all apart by functional area before the areas were ready... It's been a long time since I reported a bug but it certainly looks like it will be harder to find the 'right' team to report it to.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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You have reached E.R. switchboard; please hold the line...
You have reached E.R. switchboard; please hold the line...
You have reached E.R. switchboard; please hold the line...
You have reached E.R. switchboard; please hold the line...
You story reminds me when I was working on their Dynamics CRM; quite painful...
"I'm neither for nor against, on the contrary." John Middle
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But we have the Feedback Hub, and that's oh so much better.
Or do we?
I know it keeps popping up on my phone whenever I push the wrong button at the wrong time.
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after some parts of .net went opensource on github...and the so called new crowd at microsoft
would not even know what Microsoft connect (horribly designed site) would be... better to
close it ...sometimes it not worth fixing bugs when the whole company doesn't know what its
doing...
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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The GitHub repositories are fine for .NET Core; but where do you report bugs with the full framework?
Also, as I said, there was a vast repository of known bugs and workarounds posted on Connect, which has now vanished without a trace.
And there are still a great number of pages that link to Connect bug reports, which are now useless because those links are broken. And due to the settings on the Connect site, it's not even available in the "wayback machine".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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You could email the program managers at Microsoft who are in charge of the framework I guess,and if you are working at a Microsoft partner then you have ways to reach out through the MPN portal, they are more reachable these days since they got way more time doing nothing but hanging out at github. Not sure who in the public cares about bugs which never get fixed expect for security experts and hackers. Well I guess msft when the apple way with security though obscurity.
A New Feedback System Is Coming to docs.microsoft.com | Microsoft Docs[^]
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Noticed a comment in the earlier thread about the fridge being more important then kids...
was a bit bored and as a cyclist so been watching cycle vs car vids on u-tube,
many highly cringe worthy clips, and of course fair share of whose at fault,
but...
and not being sexist...
but noticed nearly always (and regardless of fault):
- when a male car driver knocks down a cyclist, first thing he looks at is if the cyclist is OK,
- when a woman car driver knocks down a cyclist, first thing she looks at is her car.
really, 95% of the time the woman gets out and looks at her car, then freezes, whereas the guys check the cyclist, and often don't even give a damn about where/what their car is doing until they've got the cyclist sorted.
And following suggested links that seems to apply in all accidents, including car vs car/motorbike/bike and even pedestrians, the men nearly always check the other party first, the women almost always check their own car - even after running down pedestrians FFS.
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Lopatir wrote: - when a male car driver knocks down a cyclist, first thing he looks at is if the cyclist is OK,
- when a woman car driver knocks down a cyclist, first thing she looks at is her car.
Before or after they put away their cell phones ?
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you really believe the woman will put her phone down 
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Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I remember my sister dumping her b/f after they came off his (motor)bike and first thing he did after crawling out the hedge was inspect his bike before even remembering he'd had a passenger on the back.... Priorities, eh?
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