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The server is sometimes slow.
By caching an xsl-doc, containing the menu and such, and letting the clients download only the articles, and having some life-time of a few hours( a session) on the menu xsl, this site would perhaps be faster?
Isn't it so that all users of codeproject should be developers and therefore interested in having the latest technology. So backward compatibility not should be an issue.
I use Opera for browing at home.
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Translating html to xml cannot be automatically done. It requires human sweat and time. Not likely to happen in the foreseeing future.
On the other hand, article authors are already almost allowed to upload .xml versions of their articles. Today the upload form only accepts gif/jpeg and zip files, but this is not hard to let xml go in. I believe more about xml-formatted articles when it comes from the authors' side.
How low can you go ?
(MS retrofuck)
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Just to make clear, I didn't suggest automatic translation into xml, that is why I ended my post with "I'll gladly translate 10 documents" I must admit that I'm a little offended here.
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I think it's a good idea and probably one the CP team are considering implementing in the ASP.NET version.
Michael
"I've died for a living in the movies and tv.
But the hardest thing I'll ever do is watch my leading ladies,
Kiss some other guy while I'm bandaging my knee."
-- The Unknown Stuntman
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Do you know anyting about an asp.net version of cp coming up?
where have you heard about that?
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Hugo Hallman wrote:
Do you know anyting about an asp.net version of cp coming up?
where have you heard about that?
I know very little apart from it's a big job. If you browse through the suggestions forums you'll be able to pick-up on bits and pieces about the upgrade.
Michael
"I've died for a living in the movies and tv.
But the hardest thing I'll ever do is watch my leading ladies,
Kiss some other guy while I'm bandaging my knee."
-- The Unknown Stuntman
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Hi Hugo,
Translating the articles to XML is actually a reasonably simple task (we have the meta data, and we have HTML tidying components that will output XHTML) but I'm not sure how that will help.
Changing the look and feel of CP isn't something that XML will help with. the layout is all dynamically generated as it is, so adding an XML/XSLT layer will just add extra load.
Allowing articles to be downloaded via a webservice would mean the server load would go through the roof and advertising would disappear. CodeProject looks and smells like it's free but it isn't - our advertisers are the ones who pay our enormous connection costs, salaries and hardware costs and without them we couldn't survive.
OTOH your idea is definitely an interesting one so all I can say is "stay tuned" 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
our advertisers are the ones who pay our enormous connection costs, salaries
A freudian slip? 
James
Sig code stolen from David Wulff
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Took me a good 2 mintues to work out where the slip was (OK - maybe I should just open my my eyes next time). It's not so much a Freudian slip, just poor ordering of terms
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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James T. Johnson wrote:
A freudian slip?
Exactly what I was thinking 
Regards,
Brian Dela
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Hi
This defaults to your current preference, but i find the its better to show the complete thread , not just for one day if that is your filter.
Just a thought...
"There are no stupid question's, just stupid people."
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Didn't know if you knew but the drop-down list of forums in the lounge is missing the new ASP.NET forum.
Nick Parker
The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes. - Winston Churchill
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Fixed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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CodeProject is a really cool idea but one thing makes it loose 90% of what it could have been. This one thing is an easy way of handling versions for both software submissions and related comments.
I've discovered tons of small bugs in different projects but since there is no bugtracker to see what the status for the bug is (undiscovered/known/fixed) it seems futile to even comment since there is no structured way of dealing with this situation.
Also, sometimes people place comments that are actually bug reports. When this comment is read by another person a few months later, how does he know for which version of the project it was related to if the project has been updated?
// Anders
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So how would such a bug track system work and who would moderate it?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Bugtracker
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Bugzilla (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bugzilla/) could be used as the bugtracker. One could even put together a much simpler (and nicer!) bugtracker script. The person reporting the bug could also post a suggestion on how to fix the bug, this would make it much easier for the moderator when updating the project.
Moderation
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The person who first submitted the code would be the one to moderate the project (until he retires and hands it over to someone else). With the right type of bugtracker this would not take much time.
I'm thinking a project page that might look like this...
<br />
[Project Page]<br />
..[Version]<br />
....[Bug Tracker]<br />
....[Comments]<br />
This would make all versions of the project have its own comments and bug reports which would simplify for future visits. This would also make it much more interesting in helping the moderator to maintain the project since it will be much easier to grasp what's going on.
// Anders
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The problem is that people will abuse the system, the person moderating it will lose interest/run out of time/whatever and it will be useful in only about 10% of articles.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Yes, this is definitely true, people will loose interest in projects they submit. Some of these people might be "kind enough" to let others know this so that a new moderator can be selected.
Anyway, even if this only works in 10-30% of the cases it will still make Code Project 10-30% better!
I really do think people that submit code will be more inspired to follow up on their projects if this feature was available. After all, you submit code in order for others to fix its bugs, while letting others make use of the code, mutual beneficial!
// Anders
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I am afraid you are totally sweeping the spirit of CP. In addition, it requires a lot more work to get this running, and may have the side effect or removing the fun and beauty of simplicity (copyright Ch.M.). AFAIK, this would be a good way to kill CP as a whole.
How low can you go ?
(MS retrofuck)
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IMHO a more effective way would be to have the article author just reply to the bug report/message in the forum for the article itself that the bug has been fixed or that the suggestion has been incorporated in the versions later than version xx. Then the reader can know that his/her version contains the fix/enhancement. A full fledged bug tracking system is not needed and is more effort than it is worth.
Just my opinion.
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
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Take this further: why not have each author ensure they include full update information each time they post an update. This is something I actually try and encourage but it's often hard to get the info out of them.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
it's often hard to get the info out of them.
The baseball bat not working anymore??? We'll have to come up with some new ideas
Regards,
Brian Dela
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Why not having some (simple?) todo-list to check back on.
with category(BUG|FEATURE) importance
maybe incorporate some checking capability in the forum functions.
post new thread. [checkbox name="is checkable"]
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I think it would be cool if there was a emoticon where the face was raising the "Stink Eye".
Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!
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