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BillWoodruff19-Aug-12 10:47
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Hi AspDotNetDev,

I have two responses to your comments:

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1. you ignore the fact that in this case a discussion was started on the Lounge in response to, and with specific mention of, a discussion already going on in the C# forum: when Roger Wright says, on the Lounge:

"There's a discussion going on in the C# forum about Tuples, and I'm curious what one would use them for."

He didn't even provide a link to the thread on the C# forum.

It means he made a conscious choice to start a second discussion: titling his thread: "A Blatant Technical Question," which "mocks" the CP rules against posting technical questions on the Lounge, which he himself intensifies by making the first sentence of his Lounge post:

"Not really... Smile | :) "

The OP on the C# forum also clearly indicates he is curious what you would use them for, and that he's confused about them in his second post where the word "Tuples" appears in the title of the question:

"Basically I am experimenting with Tuple for the first time and I am completely out of my element. I have no idea of how to correct the errors I am getting. Can someone please help."

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2. You write:

"We're all technical people here. We enjoy a good technical discussion (especially one where we can provide opinions rather than simple knowledge)."

I find your logic here very confusing: the topic is clear, and distinctly technical: "Tuples." How can an opinion about Tuples not be a technical statement ? The mind boggles trying to come up with an opinion about Tuples that is not technical: perhaps something like: "Well, Tuples are okay, but not on odd-numbered days of the week served with fish ?" Smile | :)

Why wouldn't those "opinions" be equally valuable to the OP on the C# forum ? And, are not users of the C# forum able to register, by vote, whether they find any post valuable, or off-topic, or respond to them with a comment that the supposed "opinion" is irrelevant to the technical issue being discussed ?

You then write:

"As far as the discrepancy of post counts between the forums, that's pretty obvious I'd think. The Lounge is a very popular forum. On top of that, if somebody answers a specific technical forum question with a specific answer, only one answer should be necessary. In the discussion environment expected in the Lounge, there are no such limitations. You can add your $0.02 even if your answer is similar to somebody else's (again, this is especially because these are opinions, and having a second or 20th opinion can be welcome)."

I seriously question that, for a broad-spectrum query like the OP's request on the C# forum, there's only "one answer." In fact the range of discussions about how Tuples behave, and whether or not to use them, and what they are good for, why they are even "in" C#: suggests they are a facility in C#, about which there is great diversity of views.

In fact, I'd claim that many of the C#, or other technical fora, questions are not just simple questions for which one-and-only-one answer will be found that is "correct:" ...

... and I'd like to make that point even more strongly: the most valuable threads, imho, often involve debate/competition over "best practices," etc. For me, personally, some of the technical fora threads that turned into literally jousting among technical peers have been the most rewarding, provocative, and forced me to re-think what I thought I understood (but really didn't).

I see no reason to believe that one cannot add, to a technical forum, your "two-cents worth," as you can in the Lounge. Within limits of course: one would not expect to see the complete menu of one of Dalek's latest Lucullan feasts posted on a thread on Tuples Smile | :)

Further, this diversion of technical discussion to the Lounge on a "whim," or whatever, is, I believe, strongly, something that dilutes the quality of the technical fora.

Why do I believe that: because the Lounge, gods bless its swampy diversity, its strange burps of methane, its will-o-the-wisps, is, like the over-stuffed-with-people hotel room in the Marx Brothers "A Night at the Opera"[^] ... a phenomenal, exponentially expanding, collage of disconnected topics for which no taxonomy is possible ... within which ... technical content disappears rapidly, covered over, entombed.

In short, I think you have written a vague rationalization, here.

But, I will still respect you in the morning Smile | :)

On a practical level, I think incentives are much more useful than dis-incentives, and promote social cohesion, and communication; so, let me close with a rhetorical question:

"How could Code Project 'reward' people who made sure that interesting technical material appearing on the Lounge which was definitely related to an existing technical forum ... make it into said appropriate forum ?"

Over to you, Chris Maunder, on that one Smile | :)

Now, if we could but ask William of Occam to apply his famous razor to all the grotty stubble in this message: I wonder if he might reply that the answer lies in making sure users know how to use CP's search engine to find content anywhere on CP ?

But, I don't think WC would answer: I think he'd just start humming from Dylan's "Blowing in the Wind."

best, Bill
"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." Kurt Vonnegut

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