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Doesn't look fixed. The latest Lounge Lizard had another message as the most popular, but it was one that got voted into oblivion.
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Consider these two sequential C# forum posts, by the same poster, computerPublic, on the topic of Tuples: [^]; and: [^].
On those two topics I count #8 first-level responses, and #4 comments-on-comments (second-level responses).
Now we switch to the Lounge, to a thread initiated by Roger Wright, titled "A Blatant "Programming Question:" [^] which the OP clearly indicates is based on the discussion of Tuples, in the messages from computerpublic, on the C# forum:
"There's a discussion going on in the C# forum about Tuples, and I'm curious what one would use them for."
Responses, and responses-to-responses, on the Lounge post: I count as a total of #21 as of right now.
Clearly the most interesting technical, and in-depth, responses to the issue "computerpublic" is trying to understand with the general problem of returning multiple types of values from a function, occur in the Lounge !
In my opinion, this switching to the Lounge to continue a disscussion of an OP on a specific technical forum really dilutes the technical forum, and is not what the Lounge is for.
On the other hand, I'd see a Lounge post that brings attention to an OP on a technical forum, gives a link to it, and then suggests that the topic is interesting, and deserves more discussion on the technical forum, as being pro-active in promoting the technical fora, and helping the OP.
In my opinion, there has been an increasing, and disturbing, trend to asking more programming questions on the Lounge in the last year.
I don't know if anyone, with any rep-level, has the power to re-locate a post, or a whole thread, from the Lounge to a technical forum, but I think someone needs to intervene in cases like this.
best, Bill
"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." Kurt Vonnegut
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Technical discussions are welcome in the Lounge so long as the OP is not looking for a specific technical solution (e.g., to get some work or homework done). Basically, if you have a problem and are looking for a solution, the Lounge is not the right place to ask. However, if you just want to chat about some interesting technical topic, that's OK.
I personally enjoyed reading through the thread to get the various perspectives of why one would want to use such a construct, as well as reasons it is not useful from other perspectives.
We're all technical people here. We enjoy a good technical discussion (especially one where we can provide opinions rather than simple knowledge).
As far as the discrepancy of post counts between the forums, that's pretty obvious I'd think. The Lounge is a very popular forum. On top of that, if somebody answers a specific technical forum question with a specific answer, only one answer should be necessary. In the discussion environment expected in the Lounge, there are no such limitations. You can add your $0.02 even if your answer is similar to somebody else's (again, this is especially because these are opinions, and having a second or 20th opinion can be welcome).
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Hi AspDotNetDev,
I have two responses to your comments:
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1. you ignore the fact that in this case a discussion was started on the Lounge in response to, and with specific mention of, a discussion already going on in the C# forum: when Roger Wright says, on the Lounge:
"There's a discussion going on in the C# forum about Tuples, and I'm curious what one would use them for."
He didn't even provide a link to the thread on the C# forum.
It means he made a conscious choice to start a second discussion: titling his thread: "A Blatant Technical Question," which "mocks" the CP rules against posting technical questions on the Lounge, which he himself intensifies by making the first sentence of his Lounge post:
"Not really...  "
The OP on the C# forum also clearly indicates he is curious what you would use them for, and that he's confused about them in his second post where the word "Tuples" appears in the title of the question:
"Basically I am experimenting with Tuple for the first time and I am completely out of my element. I have no idea of how to correct the errors I am getting. Can someone please help."
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2. You write:
"We're all technical people here. We enjoy a good technical discussion (especially one where we can provide opinions rather than simple knowledge)."
I find your logic here very confusing: the topic is clear, and distinctly technical: "Tuples." How can an opinion about Tuples not be a technical statement ? The mind boggles trying to come up with an opinion about Tuples that is not technical: perhaps something like: "Well, Tuples are okay, but not on odd-numbered days of the week served with fish ?"
Why wouldn't those "opinions" be equally valuable to the OP on the C# forum ? And, are not users of the C# forum able to register, by vote, whether they find any post valuable, or off-topic, or respond to them with a comment that the supposed "opinion" is irrelevant to the technical issue being discussed ?
You then write:
"As far as the discrepancy of post counts between the forums, that's pretty obvious I'd think. The Lounge is a very popular forum. On top of that, if somebody answers a specific technical forum question with a specific answer, only one answer should be necessary. In the discussion environment expected in the Lounge, there are no such limitations. You can add your $0.02 even if your answer is similar to somebody else's (again, this is especially because these are opinions, and having a second or 20th opinion can be welcome)."
I seriously question that, for a broad-spectrum query like the OP's request on the C# forum, there's only "one answer." In fact the range of discussions about how Tuples behave, and whether or not to use them, and what they are good for, why they are even "in" C#: suggests they are a facility in C#, about which there is great diversity of views.
In fact, I'd claim that many of the C#, or other technical fora, questions are not just simple questions for which one-and-only-one answer will be found that is "correct:" ...
... and I'd like to make that point even more strongly: the most valuable threads, imho, often involve debate/competition over "best practices," etc. For me, personally, some of the technical fora threads that turned into literally jousting among technical peers have been the most rewarding, provocative, and forced me to re-think what I thought I understood (but really didn't).
I see no reason to believe that one cannot add, to a technical forum, your "two-cents worth," as you can in the Lounge. Within limits of course: one would not expect to see the complete menu of one of Dalek's latest Lucullan feasts posted on a thread on Tuples
Further, this diversion of technical discussion to the Lounge on a "whim," or whatever, is, I believe, strongly, something that dilutes the quality of the technical fora.
Why do I believe that: because the Lounge, gods bless its swampy diversity, its strange burps of methane, its will-o-the-wisps, is, like the over-stuffed-with-people hotel room in the Marx Brothers "A Night at the Opera"[^] ... a phenomenal, exponentially expanding, collage of disconnected topics for which no taxonomy is possible ... within which ... technical content disappears rapidly, covered over, entombed.
In short, I think you have written a vague rationalization, here.
But, I will still respect you in the morning
On a practical level, I think incentives are much more useful than dis-incentives, and promote social cohesion, and communication; so, let me close with a rhetorical question:
"How could Code Project 'reward' people who made sure that interesting technical material appearing on the Lounge which was definitely related to an existing technical forum ... make it into said appropriate forum ?"
Over to you, Chris Maunder, on that one
Now, if we could but ask William of Occam to apply his famous razor to all the grotty stubble in this message: I wonder if he might reply that the answer lies in making sure users know how to use CP's search engine to find content anywhere on CP ?
But, I don't think WC would answer: I think he'd just start humming from Dylan's "Blowing in the Wind."
best, Bill
"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." Kurt Vonnegut
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Sorry, Bill, that is too much writing for me to care to read and respond to fully. What I did read did not sway my opinion, but perhaps it will sway Chris.
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Aw shucks, I was hoping to go at least one more round with ya
best, Bill
"One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us." Kurt Vonnegut
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Hello,
I had this article bookmarked for someone. They can't find it now. Any idea what happened?
A Framework for Software Application[^]
You can never try. You either do it or you don't.
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I have written a few articles and it seems to me that codeproject has some kind of versioning system to store older and deleted version of articles as well. I'm not sure but maybe codeproject has a permission system as well so some kind of achievement might be required to see deleted articles (maybe silver membership or something like that...). I'm silver and I can open the link and see the deleted article.
PS: I have also deleted a tip of mine, and don't have the link to it anymore, your own deleted articles aren't shown in your own list.
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Raghu Karupakala wrote: Any idea what happened?
Here's my guess. The article itself, while decently written, was an abysmal implementation, in my humble opinion. I was struck by the number of 5 votes received from what looked like friends of the author, and reputable members, such as Sacha, ended up voting a 1 on the article. Something definitely weird was going on, and I figure the author deleted it.
Marc
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In one of my tips I have 3 downloadable zip files. If I change to the "Browse Code" tab then all the files show up correctly from all zip files but the Directories inside the zip files don't show up at all in the second and third zip files. It might have something to do with the fact that the directory structure inside the zip files is the same: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/ViewDownloads.aspx?aid=441838[^]
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Odd. 
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
Stephen Hawking
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I click on the link for "HelpBuilder - Visual Studio user friendly documentation by jack.vseumel" and get the message
"This article has not yet been approved for publication by our membership. It should be available soon.
Please go to the .NET Framework Table of Contents to view the list of available articles in this section."
It appears this article was submitted on July 2nd of 2012. How long does it take to approve an article.
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The article has been, in fact, closed. The message is incorrect, but I've fixed it and it will make more sense in the next rev.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thank you for fixing that.
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After clicking the very long thread Windows 8 - First Impressions[^], I clicked on the next thread after it (not a child thread). That caused a lot of whitespace to appear below the advertising. I assume it has something to do with the scrollbar not being reset correctly.
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I am using Chrome and I can't replicate...this problem.
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IE9 for me (at work). 
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This question[^] in the Java forum seems to have messed up the display.
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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I reported it in spam/abuse - maybe the hamsters will see it here quicker.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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If someone updates his tip/trick entery, it says This is an updat of the current published article.
Could someone change this, as it is a little confusing 
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Yes, it's because you have Legend status. No more queuing for you.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I liked the feature. It was working fine until I remove the 'Send me an e-mail if someone replies to the message' option from my settings. I thought that notifications do the job very well so I don't need the same in my mailbox, but now I realized that that checkbox stops both - mail notifications and CP notifications!
modified 16-Aug-12 9:42am.
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Also, I noticed that I got a notification the other day when I replied to my own comment in QA. I think I got an email too. I was there when it happened... I don't need to be notified of it.
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I'm not saying you're getting old and senile or anything...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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