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Slacker007 wrote:
I wonder how much "energy" his Tesla manufacturing plants consume....compared to say, Bitcoin mining.
Not quite a relevant comparison since, like it or not, Teslas are a product of the manufacturing vs. nothing is the product of bitcoin mining.

There is a good question to consider: except for those Teslas (and all electric-only vehicles) that happen to get charged from Soloar/Wind/Hydroelectric/nuclear/&etc., they most likely use more energy than a regular vehicle. Why you may ask?

Well every step in anything you do has an efficiency of less than 100%. Charging the vehicles with electricity produced from fossil fuels thus waste energy for this extra step (rather than burning fuel where its used: the engine). Added waste are power line transmission losses. All it really does is centralize the pollution (which has some value locally but not globally).

That being said: hybrids, which don't have to be plugged in, save energy if you consider the excellent fuel economy. As for hydrogen fueled vehicles? At this point, there is more CO2 pollution from producing the hydrogen (typically from oil conversion) than from use at the vehicle.

Last thing: it shows good insight that you consider the manufacturing process. Consider: does a solar cell, during it's lifetime, produce more energy than it cost to produce? Purifying silicon, starting from sand, is a very very energy intensive process (like aluminum production).

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