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And now _please_ stop both. The only thing I wanted to do with my initinal post was to think of the people in Belarus who have to suffer a lot for their protests
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Chemists have exactly one rule: there are only exceptions
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: You call people protesting for equal treatment under the law "idiots"?
First off, most people protesting are not protesting for that. And secondly, yes, because the law already treats them as equals. Point me to one law that does not. Just one. Any one? I'll wait.
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: the says everything I need to know about you.
And I you.
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ZurdoDev wrote: First off, most people protesting are not protesting for that.
You might want to actually talk to protesters.
ZurdoDev wrote: And secondly, yes, because the law already treats them as equals.
It's not the laws that are different, it's the application of them that is.
Why are Black people 5 times more likely to be stopped without cause than a white person? Why are the same number of Black people shot and killed by cops as White people, but only make up 13% of the population? Why are Black people 6 times more likely to be convicted compared to White people committing the same crimes? Why are Black people sentenced to 20% more prison time than Whites in the same situations?
But yeah, you keep living in your little bubble.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: You might want to actually talk to protesters.
I knew you were blowing smoke. 
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: 5 times more likely to be stopped without cause than a white person?
That's not a statistic that can be tracked. Is it true? Who knows.
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Why are the same number of Black people shot and killed by cops as White people,
Your stats are wrong. The same amount of unarmed Hispanics are killed by cops every year as are blacks but can you name even one of them? Almost double the amount of unarmed white people are killed by cops every year but can you name even one of them?
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Why are Black people 6 times more likely to be convicted compared to White people committing the same crimes?
Why? Because a judge sees a black person and automatically thinks guilty? I think you are projecting here. And this is another statistic that cannot be tracked. If they committed the crime then they get sentenced or have better lawyers or whatever it is. But it's not a nation of judges who are all racist. That's the only way your narrative can stand, is to say that nearly all judges are racist. You really think that?
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Why are Black people sentenced to 20% more prison time than Whites in the same situations?
Because every judge in the nation including the black ones are racists against blacks. Of course. 
You are projecting way too much here. Have a good day. And find some accurate stats.
You should look into culture and poverty and that will open up a whole new meaning to your stats.
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ZurdoDev wrote: You might want to actually talk to protesters. I knew you were blowing smoke.
I don't smoke. I talk to my neighbor on one side of me that were attending the protests in Detroit and then the two cops, from two different departments, I live next to.
ZurdoDev wrote: e Kreskowiak wrote: 5 times more likely to be stopped without cause than a white person?
That's not a statistic that can be tracked. Is it true? Who knows.
Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Why are the same number of Black people shot and killed by cops as White people,
Your stats are wrong. The same amount of unarmed Hispanics are killed by cops every year as are blacks but can you name even one of them? Almost double the amount of unarmed white people are killed by cops every year but can you name even one of them?
Well, the FBI, United States Sentencing Commission, NAACP, University of Michigan Law School, National Criminal Justice Reference Service, Pew Research, and many others, would disagree with you.
I'm not projecting anything at all. I just read the stats and reports from the above pages, among others.
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OK. 
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It's all over the news here in Europe. Demonstrations against corruption and violence by police and security services. Especially after another fixed election to keep the incumbent president in power.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: Demonstrations against corruption and violence by police and security services. Especially after another fixed election to keep the incumbent president in power.
I am not saying you are wrong but it is hard for me to believe that statement outright because in the US, our corrupt media will print that exact headline if a certain someone gets reelected. I don't know what the media is like in other countries but our media is so corrupt and full of lies that when someone posts something from the news it's hard to take it serious.
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My statement was a generalisation of things written by different journalists, most of whom I know to be reasonably trustworthy. It is also echoed by politicians across Europe. And just as in the US there are elements of the media here that I never listen to, knowing that they are biased at the very least.
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Thank you for the explanation.
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I had a discussion with a mate yesterday who's definitely an A type and all business. He can't stand a conversation where someone beats around the bush and things became extremely tense after a few poor choices of words from me. well - I thought they were excellently chosen. He begged to differ in no uncertain terms.
It turns out, after we'd both put the brakes on the conversation and did a real-time collaborative debug session on our conversation (how does the world survive without us developers making life logical??) that the issue was one of humour. Specifically, he doesn't get Aussie humour. At all.
Do you find conversations with those from a different culture a bit of a mine field? I honestly thought that with all of us interacting with half a dozen cultures over the course of our daily lives we'd mostly be over this issue by now, but the specific issue of humour seems to be something that I need to absolutely avoid for certain audiences. I'd get away with talking about sex, religion and politics better than I would cracking a joke in some cases.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Do you find conversations with those from a different culture a bit of a mine field?
Yes...many times.
And the worst is...
for spanish I am too germanized,
for germans I am too spanish,
for english I am too southern,
for indian I am too european...
At the end I just found out, to the hell with everyone, if they don't get the joke is their problem. I can still laugh on it.
And for the other considerations... I just adopted Felix Nussbaum's motto:
I am a citizen of the world, I am a foreigner everywhere although every place is my home.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Absolutely, a lot of humor just doesn't translate. It's what I call "culturally bound"
I run into that trying to understand humorous memes and jokes from Mexico for example.
On the other hand, sometimes it's funny, like when my hubby tried to explain the United States Easter celebration (including the Easter Bunny) to our friends who are Mexican nationals. Well one of them took to calling it "the stupid american rabbit of easter" (translated from Spanish to English of course) and now I call it the american rabbit of easter because it's funny.
Or maybe my humor doesn't translate.
Real programmers use butterflies
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The Bunny vs (Mexico's) Day of the Dead. Has a certain ring to it.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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You could always talk about spiders and snakes.
And Drop Bears 
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Hmmm,
You already know my opinion. A very good example is right below your thread. The joke below about mental health issues is bad taste considering at least one of our newest Lounge regulars admits to struggling with mental illness.
There are just some topics that should be avoided in a professional setting:
Body shaming jokes
Gender jokes
Political jokes
Sexuality jokes
Disability jokes
Just my opinion,
-David Delaune
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The difference as I see it is that Australian / English humour is often self-deprecating, whereas US humour is often aimed at making fun of someone else. In this context we (Aussie et al) can get away with a lot more (and can have richer and sharper jokes) because the only person we're putting down are ourselves (or ourselves collectively), whereas when a joke's targeted at someone you have to be very, very careful.
Having said that I know enough people back home ready and willing to sling the mud at someone directly...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Well,
Chris Maunder wrote: Having said that I know enough people back home ready and willing to sling the mud at someone directly...
Those types of potentially offensive posts on reddit, Ycombinator and stack overflow are down-voted, moderated and removed. Hard to believe that you would condone this type of thing on your forum.
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When people don't understand what's being said, it seems to me you've 2 options.
0) say something sufficiently simple for them to understand
1) teach them what you mean, by way of expanded understanding
People that insist upon #0 - I wonder what they're like. I've the luxury of being able to refuse to participate with 'em.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Australian / English humour is often self-deprecating,
And well deserved !
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Chris Maunder wrote: because the only person we're putting down are ourselves
Ah, yes, I remember an Aussie telling me the similarity between an Aussie in the bed and a wombat.
And also drop bears.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Yes. Exactly this
I was discussing different electoral systems the other day and during it I made a .jibe aimed at the nation collectively. Something about us being a bunch of silly somethings that will turn up to vote anyway. No need to entice people to do so.
Someone took it upon themselves to label it as racist.
Won't be making that mistake again soon!
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While I agree with your sentiment in general, I have a feeling she wouldn't have a problem with it.
It's all depending on if the joke is aimed at someone or not, or differently put, depending on if you're laughing with someone or at someone.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Well,
Codeproject just recently lost a long-time member named Lopitar because of a distasteful joke someone told right here in the Lounge about death. Lopitar had just recently lost a loved-one to that same scenario.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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That's the thing, you have to know someone to have an idea about what their limits are.
One of my best friends is gay, Best friend as in our families usually spending the vacation together.
He loves a good juicy joke about his preferences. That doesn't mean I'm telling those jokes to anyone.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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