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It's always sad when we lose good people. Rest in peace ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Thank the great Ghu there are teachers like your headmaster, I had this creature [^] to remember my schooling by.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I had both kinds, I suspect there is some kind of balance somewhere...
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Galaxy Note 7 fires likely caused by 'super-aggressive manufacturing process' | ZDNet[^]
At the end of the, actually very good, article there is this brilliant analysis:
Quote: "In this case, Samsung took a deliberate step towards danger," wrote Shedletsky, "and their existing test infrastructure and design validation process failed them. They shipped a dangerous product. That this is possible at one of the top consumer electronic companies in the world is humbling -- and demonstrates the need for better tools."
Nope. Nope nope nopey-no. Unless by "tools" the writer was referring to the designers, in that case I endorse his/her diagnosis. This wasn't a problem of lacking tools, as it is explicitly said, Quote: Samsung took a deliberate step towards danger
so this is a design issue not a tooling one.
Some people will never uderstand tha no feraking tool can substitute good design and proper implementation of safety rules and good practices.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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By "better tools" the author means mind altering devices that make it impossible to decide to step towards danger and ignore (or loosen) safety rules and good practices.
Duh.
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And here is me thinking the problem is some fat ass bending/squeezing the phone, or an idiot charging it while it is under their pillow/duvet etc. or buying some cheap imitation knock off charger with no/or limited protection built in...... 
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A phone WILL bend or squeeze if put in a portable container - even if Note 7 is phreaking humongous - and its design should be tailored to that, otherwise it's simply poor design. Probably they thought that every phone would be in the same condition of the testing device, which was on a perfectly flat surface at all times.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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My car will bend if I wrap it round a tree...however it won't if I take care of it and watch what I'm doing.
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Your car won't bend if you brake at a stoplight, because it is designed to be used. A soldier's gun won't bend if fired or kept in the holster because it is designed to be used. My mouse doesn't bend when I click the buttons because that's the common use. A phone shouldn't bend when carried on one's person because that's the use it should be designed for.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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My my my, you do have a bee in your bonnet today.......having a bad day?
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Actually yes  a bit feverish, everything's hectic at work and my SO is stuck in bed with a very strong flu. Not the best of days, at all!
ADDENDUM:
DaveAuld wrote: you do have a bee in your bonnet
I didn't know this expression. It's absolutely great!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Well have a hot toddy, and back into bed.....but don't leave your phone charging or your laptop sitting on the duvet 
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Heh, it's also very old. From an internet search, the first time in print appears to be 1790. Pretty cool that it's still being used.
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There is a HUGE difference between understanding and caring.
There are certain countries who just don't care.
I don't mean one example, or even a few. But systemic, complete, across the board utter disregard for any life, human or otherwise, trashing the environment with lead and cadmium, tainting food products with deadly chemicals in order to get a slightly higher test result on certain factors...
You know who you are. And so do we.
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You shouldn't say such cruel things about the USA, this close to Christmas.
Season of goodwill, and all that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I think it was some marketing managers who pressed for that big battery and overruled the engineers.
The result is a hefty bill 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Is that not the most normal thing in the world? Simply make up some new 'requirements', it's not your fault when those nerds can't get it right.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Almost sure it went that way, I experienced the very same... and still experiencing it!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I have been in that situation, over ruled by managment, thing fails dumped on my desk told make it work, take it apart, find fault, find e-mail trail relating to fault, forward email trail to supervisor. Get called into meeting "Why was X done?", "I don't know, I recomended Y as this was a possibility", "well why wasn't this brought to the attention of X", "I did send a detailed E-mail", "can you send me the e-mails", "I already forward them.", reads e-mail trail, "Oh! thank you" told I could leave finger pointing meeting. My super found me a hour later, told me I was OK and marketing had got the chop over it! 
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In such a place always write a message whenever you see something going down the drain, insist on a written answer when someone definitely wants it that way and archive the messges in a way that deletion from the server will not do them any good. Deletion, of course, will 'accidentally' happen by the second finger pointing session after showing your archived messages for the first time.
Don't ever let them off the hook and don't do anything until you have a written answer. They can have it any way they want, as long as they don't try to dump the responsibility as well. It also is fun to see them squirm when trying to get out of this.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I have a rule with work emails always back them up locally, that was an example of where doing that saved my neck, due to the 'marketing local networks mail server crashing'
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It's a shame. Those servers always drop dead right at the moment you really need something that is stored on them. Even local copies may not be entirely safe from this. Try to find a safe place in the network that nobody finds so easily, just in case.
In such a company I used to deploy my packed and encrypted archive with a web application onto a test server. I bet it's still there because nobody ever tried to find out what this thing actually does there.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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This is the real "defensive programming", not the fake one involving checking every input (that borderlines between sane and stupid programming, depending on how it's implemented).
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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This is also a very sad thing if this is needed. It's also one of the strongest indicators when to get ready to leave a company. In the end everybody is mostly busy covering their backs and everything else, including the actual work, suffer.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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