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My my my, you do have a bee in your bonnet today.......having a bad day?
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Actually yes  a bit feverish, everything's hectic at work and my SO is stuck in bed with a very strong flu. Not the best of days, at all!
ADDENDUM:
DaveAuld wrote: you do have a bee in your bonnet
I didn't know this expression. It's absolutely great!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Well have a hot toddy, and back into bed.....but don't leave your phone charging or your laptop sitting on the duvet 
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Heh, it's also very old. From an internet search, the first time in print appears to be 1790. Pretty cool that it's still being used.
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There is a HUGE difference between understanding and caring.
There are certain countries who just don't care.
I don't mean one example, or even a few. But systemic, complete, across the board utter disregard for any life, human or otherwise, trashing the environment with lead and cadmium, tainting food products with deadly chemicals in order to get a slightly higher test result on certain factors...
You know who you are. And so do we.
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You shouldn't say such cruel things about the USA, this close to Christmas.
Season of goodwill, and all that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I think it was some marketing managers who pressed for that big battery and overruled the engineers.
The result is a hefty bill 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Is that not the most normal thing in the world? Simply make up some new 'requirements', it's not your fault when those nerds can't get it right.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Almost sure it went that way, I experienced the very same... and still experiencing it!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I have been in that situation, over ruled by managment, thing fails dumped on my desk told make it work, take it apart, find fault, find e-mail trail relating to fault, forward email trail to supervisor. Get called into meeting "Why was X done?", "I don't know, I recomended Y as this was a possibility", "well why wasn't this brought to the attention of X", "I did send a detailed E-mail", "can you send me the e-mails", "I already forward them.", reads e-mail trail, "Oh! thank you" told I could leave finger pointing meeting. My super found me a hour later, told me I was OK and marketing had got the chop over it! 
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In such a place always write a message whenever you see something going down the drain, insist on a written answer when someone definitely wants it that way and archive the messges in a way that deletion from the server will not do them any good. Deletion, of course, will 'accidentally' happen by the second finger pointing session after showing your archived messages for the first time.
Don't ever let them off the hook and don't do anything until you have a written answer. They can have it any way they want, as long as they don't try to dump the responsibility as well. It also is fun to see them squirm when trying to get out of this.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I have a rule with work emails always back them up locally, that was an example of where doing that saved my neck, due to the 'marketing local networks mail server crashing' 
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It's a shame. Those servers always drop dead right at the moment you really need something that is stored on them. Even local copies may not be entirely safe from this. Try to find a safe place in the network that nobody finds so easily, just in case.
In such a company I used to deploy my packed and encrypted archive with a web application onto a test server. I bet it's still there because nobody ever tried to find out what this thing actually does there.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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This is the real "defensive programming", not the fake one involving checking every input (that borderlines between sane and stupid programming, depending on how it's implemented).
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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This is also a very sad thing if this is needed. It's also one of the strongest indicators when to get ready to leave a company. In the end everybody is mostly busy covering their backs and everything else, including the actual work, suffer.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: This is also a very sad thing if this is needed.
100% agree with you
CDP1802 wrote: It's also one of the strongest indicators when to get ready to leave a company.
Problem is... sometimes you leave bad to get into worst. I have learned that on the painful way. That's why I just save everything (see my below message).
CDP1802 wrote: n the end everybody is mostly busy covering their backs and everything else, including the actual work, suffer.
To do backups is not such a big time effort. Luckily since I started saving everything I didn't need it.
I think this is like condoms, rain jacket / umbrella and similar things... better have and don't need, than need and don't have.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Be aware that if you work for RBS, (or any other Bank, for that matter) you may be offered a black-bin bag, and dismissed for 'lack of performance' if you are the bearer of bad-tidings. But that's OK, who wants to work up Sh*t Creek anyway?
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10 months ago I left a place where such things were common every day and declined two offers after the interview because I had the impression that they had a similar unhealthy climate. I prefer to actually do my job instead of spending most of my time with politics or the politicians.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I want to hear the story of the internal investigation at Samsung, and which people lost their jobs as a result of the debacle. Was it some poor test engineer who didn't find the stupid design error? Some hapless engineer squeezed by management to make the phone a few mm thinner? Or was it the schmuck who didn't listen to the guys saying, "Wow, that's cutting out all the safety margin." Or was it nobody at all because who care if a few people get burned half a planet away.
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And I'd really like to know what really went on at VW re the emissions cheating....
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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Or some marketing guy rushing to get it on the market before it was ready.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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If only Samsung would stop chasing and start believing in their products.
the iPhone 7 was always going to be a non-event. We'd known that for months. Yet Samsung panicked and rushed out a product with disastrous consequences. If they'd waited, perfected, and let the noise of the iPhone 7 subside (I think it took maybe a week before people stopped talking about it) then they could have had the stage to themselves, with an audience keen to see something special.
They instead gave everyone the wrong kind of special.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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There have been several layers of "special" involved. That's a pity since mainstream Samsung products are of high quality themselves. They could have waited indeed.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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