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Mark_Wallace wrote: Even novices know about zero-base!
I've been in the Javascript world lately, where some things are 0, some things are 1, some things are defined, some things are undefined, some things are true, some things are false, and you never really know which.
Javascript - the world's first quantum computing language.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: I've been in the Javascript world lately
You have my sincere condolences.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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In recent years, I've come to find discussions of one language being strongly typed vs another which isn't more and more curious and fun.
Starting out, it was Turbo Pascal, followed by inline asm, shortly after by Turbo Assembler and Macro Assembler, before picking up C and C++. At that point, I'd leer down my nose at anyone seriously considering using a script-like, interpreted language - partially, because everyone knew that strongly typed languages were 'better' and were also 'harder', generally a result of their less comprehensive standard libs.
That was over 20 years ago now and I laugh as I look on my other monitor to see an Access DB being converted to SQL Server, PHP and Javascript. (I don't .NET and the client doesn't care if I build it out of mudbricks & straw, so long as they can reliably pump all the receipts through it)
I also think about how much I code in different languages and find that shockingly, much of what I do these days is in fact in script-like langs. It's always an interesting challenge - coding something in C/C++, JS/PHP and in ASM - they're just so very different, yet in the important places, very much alike. Keeps me on my toes at least. Graphics and Sound have always been interests, so for those at least, C/JS/ASM are all perfectly alike enough. And in fact, writing a pdf-producing class was far easier in PHP than in C++. I reckon JS would make the C++ version look long-winded, verbose and full of gotchas.
Just dont tell my 20 year old self I said this!
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1. Unsigned Data Files
2. Signed Data Files
3. EFT Generator and TMS Packages
The English language is an ambiguous beast.
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Not when you use the Oxford comma!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I know, right!?
This was one of the things that annoyed me to no end in college... The MLA updated their rules for comma-delimited lists such as this, so that the last and second to last item no longer had a comma preceding the conjunction.
Which leads to really confusing situations when your last item has a conjunction in it! It gets even worse in situations like this where re-ordering the list isn't possible because you're literally listing them in the order they occur; re-ordering would then just be confusing.
I sometimes wonder if the people in the MLA have English as a first or second (or third!) language...
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You do know that you're allowed to ignore idiots who don't know anything about the language, don't you? Every rule that's even remotely associated with "in-line lists" and "parallelism" dictates the use of a terminal comma (before the "and"), so anyone who declares differently is an idiot.
Just because an idiot has his idiocy published in a book doesn't make it less idiotic.
I mean, if we ignore the travesty that is "Charlotte's Web of English Usage" (Strunk & White), the worst writer in the world on the subject was Fowler, so ignoring his bollocks is not only possible, but recommended!
If anyone gives you any hassle about your choices, give me a shout, and I'll provide more than enough chapter and verse to make them STFU.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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In everyday life, that's certainly true (and to this day I precede my conjunction with a comma!) However in a college English class, if you don't follow the rules to the letter (no matter how retarded) then you get docked points...
To further cement the stupidity of this mindset, I wrote a paper in said class about DRM schemes. I got docked points because I was using 'defamatory/inflamatory language'. Stupid woman didn't know that scheme was literally what they were called, and wouldn't listen to any argument against what she felt was true.
Hated her, hated the class, and hate English (the language!) in general... So glad that my degree only required one semester of English...
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Ah, Glasshopper, but English is a language that is far more fascinating than any programming language could ever be.
This is because computers are idiots, so computer languages only have to communicate thoughts and ideas to idiots.
But English is far more sophisticated, because you have to use it to communicate thoughts and ideas to things that are far worse than idiots.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm lost. What's defamatory/inflammatory about "scheme"? 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Inherently nothing. The dictionary definition only describes it as some manner of plan. However the adjective form (which to note, I wasn't using the adjective form...) is more commonly used in a derogatory manner. 'He is such a scheming b!@#ard.' Etc.
So she had it in her head that the noun form of the word had a negative connotation as well... Fantastic for an English professor; doesn't even understand the language she's supposed to be teaching!
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I've been using it lately, after seeing this[^] 
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Kyle Moyer wrote: The English language is an ambiguous beast.
Yes, the text description doesn't do it justice. Maybe that's what happened. 
Marc
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I had a friend deal with Ingenico tech support recently.
They told him that each of the network devices that they provided "need their own IP address."
I was a bit flabbergasted, until troubleshooting and testing revealed they needed their own STATIC IP addresses.
seems like they're consistent at least.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Go stand in the corner and don the Dunce Cap! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Who is Don the Dunce?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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That'd be me in this case I guess. (copy/pasting 'I will not say **** on a customer phone call again' 100 times)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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That's what happens if your mouth starts running before your brain is in gear!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I regret I have only one upvote to give this post that honestly deserves so many more.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Thanks! I regret that this actually happened! It's not over yet, but I did have to spend an afternoon detailing the chain of events that led up to the 'misunderstanding'. What a waste of time! Ughhh
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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a***hole!
What?
Oh, were the first five lines of my posting truncated?
Damn.
Sorry, but I can't be bothered to type it all again.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Only the first word came through clearly! After that I couldn't be bothered to read the rest!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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It was the only bit worth reading, anyway.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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