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glennPattonWork wrote: Has anyone else seen the item about the Turing test being beaten
At an event on Saturday at the Royal Society in London, a conversation program running on a computer called Eugene Goostman was able to convince more than a third of the judges that it was human.
That just means that 1/3 of the judges were idiots. Seriously though, if determining whether a machine passes the Turning Test relies on, well, humans, then we have a significant problem. And interesting test would be the inverse: given a real human being, how many "judges" will deem the person to be a machine?
Technically, only a machine should be able to determine whether another machine passes the Turing Test. 
Marc
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i agree
1/3 of the judges is just a "Placebo effect", 2/3 should be better to eliminate morons.
Turing was more subtle, he didn't write AI "equals" RI, but only AI "simulates" RI.
From Darwin to Oscar Wilde, prudence...
machine or human (A) | machine or human (B) | interrogator machine or human (C)
Delete the human everywhere (this is the beginning!) Find who is human. The game is initiated by C :
"Pr Clifton a strange game in which the only winning move is not to play" 
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Actually fooling 30% of the people should be fairly easy. After all, some Nigerians learned how to make a fairly good living doing it via email.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Not yet!! They still have some issues[^]!  
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I think I would fail, on a Monday, particularly today 
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I am looking for a device that will enable me to turn on/off a power socket remotely via a pc or an app on my phone.
I have seen these (CLICKY)[^] but wondered if anyone had experience of using this equipment and whether it was easy to install/use.
Any information gleaned from the hive mind will help me make an informed choice.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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This one[^] any good?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Ah, a 1982 Mobile Phone.
No use, alas, as the obsolete nature of the OS disavows me from getting in to alter the BIOS.
However it has potential as a 'point-of-entry' aid.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Try this: SelfieStick[^]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Is this some kind of torment for the kids ?
I am against that. This might actually do the work, and make the poor little innocent children do their homework and home chores.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Dalek Dave wrote: I am looking for a device that will enable me to turn on/off a power socket remotely via a pc or an app on my phone.
Check out X10 and DKC Automation.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Hi Dave
I came across [Home Wizard]but It's more a complete home automation packet that is extendable so you can add modules such as an IP camera to it or temperature control to it and so on. It has mobile apps for the remote control
With friendly greetings,
Eric Goedhart
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We got a Kankun remote socket that looks very much like the Belkin model. My husband managed to set it up fairly easily so that he can turn the socket on and off from his Android phone.
We haven't used it much yet but I can see how it can be very useful.
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I find the implication in this ruling [^]to be amazing. So when a council does it's due diligence it goes to a financial advisor and uses a rating organisation to asses the validity of an investment. Both of these organisation publish false information. Now they want no responsibility for the counil NOT doing their due diligence.
I hope this does not get overturned and they get to stick to the FIs that ripped them off.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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So, the FI's basically have to show they are incompetent (or deliberately and illegally misleading customers) or pay up.
If I were them, I'd have paid up quietly and hoped nobody noticed they were incompetent... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: If I were them, I'd have paid up quietly and hoped nobody noticed they were
incompetent
I agree with you there, I think it may be that the councils can stick all of the damages on any one of the 3 organisations that has pissed them off.
The numbers don't even seem to be that much ,well not for a Bank anyway thay have a licence to print money after all. I imagine S&P are a little worried and the advisor has probably closed up shop and bolted already.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Complex decision I agree and subject to the vagaries of law. However in regard to the ratings agencies someone has to say "The King has no clothes". I think perhaps they need to be doing a little due diligence themselves which is what is expected of them. Their credibility should be on the line - but is it?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: Their credibility should be on the line - but is it?
Of course not.
Their "opinions" (I got sick to death of the bastards using that word during the hearings) are so interwoven into the financial world's processes, both digital and on paper, that they can't be "outwoven".
The next time they see something that will make billions for their cronies at the expense of the lives and livelihoods of everyone else in the world, those billions will be reaped, and the rest of us will suffer, again.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I would recommend the film Inside Job for an explanation, of the complexities, of what is basically a system designed to make the banks huge amounts of money at the expense of ordinary investors.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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It seems that if you put your Android OS language to Catalan (my mother tongue) and then you want Google navigation to speak you cannot get it to work.
Of course it is clear that Google has not developed the TTS for Catalan in this application, therefore this is normal to happen, but... I've tried to select the Spanish TTS and the only thing I can hear is a "Dong" each time an indication should be listened...
Any experience on having a different OS language than what is supported in Google navigation and having it working?
I've seen in the Internet that TTS should be switched to Google and not Samsung (S4) and I've also selected Spanish as the language to be used... but no change here... only "Dong" at each turning...
I've got Waze in each phone of the company to overcome this, but if anyone could point me to any source where this would be discussed it would be great.
PS: I know probably nobody here will have had any issue using Catalan (quite normal) but probably any of the megahundreds of ![Green Alien | [Alien]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/alien.gif) ians will have found a similar issue in other languages...
Thank you all! 
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"Furthermore the Empire takes on US Law-man and spirals towards us!"(9)
Nice one to start the week.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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