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I find the implication in this ruling [^]to be amazing. So when a council does it's due diligence it goes to a financial advisor and uses a rating organisation to asses the validity of an investment. Both of these organisation publish false information. Now they want no responsibility for the counil NOT doing their due diligence.
I hope this does not get overturned and they get to stick to the FIs that ripped them off.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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So, the FI's basically have to show they are incompetent (or deliberately and illegally misleading customers) or pay up.
If I were them, I'd have paid up quietly and hoped nobody noticed they were incompetent... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: If I were them, I'd have paid up quietly and hoped nobody noticed they were
incompetent
I agree with you there, I think it may be that the councils can stick all of the damages on any one of the 3 organisations that has pissed them off.
The numbers don't even seem to be that much ,well not for a Bank anyway thay have a licence to print money after all. I imagine S&P are a little worried and the advisor has probably closed up shop and bolted already.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Complex decision I agree and subject to the vagaries of law. However in regard to the ratings agencies someone has to say "The King has no clothes". I think perhaps they need to be doing a little due diligence themselves which is what is expected of them. Their credibility should be on the line - but is it?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: Their credibility should be on the line - but is it?
Of course not.
Their "opinions" (I got sick to death of the bastards using that word during the hearings) are so interwoven into the financial world's processes, both digital and on paper, that they can't be "outwoven".
The next time they see something that will make billions for their cronies at the expense of the lives and livelihoods of everyone else in the world, those billions will be reaped, and the rest of us will suffer, again.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I would recommend the film Inside Job for an explanation, of the complexities, of what is basically a system designed to make the banks huge amounts of money at the expense of ordinary investors.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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It seems that if you put your Android OS language to Catalan (my mother tongue) and then you want Google navigation to speak you cannot get it to work.
Of course it is clear that Google has not developed the TTS for Catalan in this application, therefore this is normal to happen, but... I've tried to select the Spanish TTS and the only thing I can hear is a "Dong" each time an indication should be listened...
Any experience on having a different OS language than what is supported in Google navigation and having it working?
I've seen in the Internet that TTS should be switched to Google and not Samsung (S4) and I've also selected Spanish as the language to be used... but no change here... only "Dong" at each turning...
I've got Waze in each phone of the company to overcome this, but if anyone could point me to any source where this would be discussed it would be great.
PS: I know probably nobody here will have had any issue using Catalan (quite normal) but probably any of the megahundreds of ![Green Alien | [Alien]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/alien.gif) ians will have found a similar issue in other languages...
Thank you all! 
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"Furthermore the Empire takes on US Law-man and spirals towards us!"(9)
Nice one to start the week.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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A confusingly named road sounds like electron's progenitor (9)
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The benefits of a Classical Education I see!
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Unfortunately not he dared moan!
I trawled and roamed the interweb to find a dead roman or mean dad, something, anything that would match in a meaningful riposte.
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Currently reading De Bello Gallico, so they are to the forefront of what I (and some laughingly) call my mind.
Neat clue as usual.
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We all got period of times when tension is higher - mostly connected to deadlines of our project...
In case of high tension I used to ate a lot of chocolate[^] and as expected the sugar in it helps me to calm down...(It also helps me to keep weight over 80)
How do you calm yourself down?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Seriously, shouldn't this be posted in The Soapbox? 
Nah, I'm eating my nails compulsively, sleep deprivation, nervous wrecks, craving for kill...
As you can see everything is under control here...
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Joan Murt wrote: craving for kill
I know, that's the part I'm do little walk out in the green park, after all my superior is close to retirement... 
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: my superior is close to retirement
Be careful, they are improved each day... 
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Me too. I eat chocolate when I'm tensed, when I'm bored, sleepy, happy, angry, relaxed, out of control, sad...
Actually, if given the chance, I'll eat chocolate everyday! 
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Karen Mitchelle wrote: I'll eat chocolate alldayeveryday
FTFY
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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I think not. I'm afraid to get too much fat.
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Mind your own business.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Best way to relieve tension is to orgasm.
If you do that on your own or with a friend is up to you.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I find shredding a junior dev or better yet rip into a user group releives the tension, mainly because it also releives you of the job that casues the tension so I reserve it for very unusual circumstances.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Dream.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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A walk around the block usually works - and it allows the mind to chew over the current issues, often resulting in a faster resolution than sitting in front of a computer screen.
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