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@OriginalGriff did you approved this[^] being in lack of or do you really did it conciously?
I find it extremly interesting and technically more advanced than many things that get published, I would have very probably approved it too.
I am just a bit confused because that looks like a second try and the first one got deleted - CodeProject[^].
Similar kind of publications have been reported before.
@Sean-Ewington or @Chris-Maunder what do you think?
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That one I thought about for a while, and approved on the grounds that it is indeed an interesting approach, and it's more an "advanced debugging" aid than actual hacking.
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Than... should we maybe warn the user to avoid that word and possible missunderstandings?
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The word in this context is used correctly. Why should the guy be censored because some choose to assume another meaning: Hacker - Wikipedia[^]
Back when I was reading Dr. Dobb's Journal of Computer Calisthenics & Orthodontia thats what we were all called: Dr. Dobb's Journal - Wikipedia[^]
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Quote: and possible missunderstandings? Those don't depend on the correctness of the context but on the interpretation of the users.
and just in case... (for the ones reading) I AM NOT REPORTING IT.
I already said I find it extreme interesting and more advance as many things that get published. But IMHO it would be worth to consider a bit of edition.
I just want to try to avoid that it get nuked when it is not to be nuked (a version of the article got already deleted) and to clarify the topic before the accusations about "double standards" or similar pop up.
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So your thesis would be if there are ambiguities based on the possibly limited comprehension of the reader then we pasteurize everything to avoid that. That is called political correctness.
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pwasser wrote: That is called political correctness. Nope... it is called happy trigger fingers. And that is what I would like to avoid, if the consensus is that the article remains. As I already said... a version got already deleted.
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I think that it is not a problem now and then to approve an article that is not quite in the standard. The massively greater danger I see in it that it is so that a few individuals try to decide what should be ok for the nearly 14 million members ...
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I don't have any problems with exotic things (not quite in standard). I am asking about this one in particular because of the "hacking" aspect. This very particular article is not dangerous "per se" and I already said:
Quote: I find it extremly interesting and technically more advanced than many things that get published, I would have very probably approved it too. But the content is still something that could be relative easily used for not so nice purposes. And that is why I raised the point.
0x01AA wrote: The massively greater danger I see in it that it is so that a few individuals try to decide what should be ok for the nearly 14 million members ... Then move to a desert island or the moon, because every country in the world is ruled by a few that decide what is ok for the rest of the XX millions habitants. And here in CP, in extremis, the staff of the site has the last word, and they are still even less people than here in the forum doing a public debate where every member can say their opinion. As you have just proven.
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Nelek wrote: because of the "hacking" aspect I've never seen a CP employee claim hacking articles were invalid. They may have, but I've never seen it.
My opinion is that hacking articles of any kind are VERY beneficial because it helps us know how to program to protect against those types of hacks.
I don't know why some people feel that teaching hacking is a bad thing.
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ZurdoDev wrote: I don't know why some people feel that teaching hacking is a bad thing.
1) I never said it was a bad thing
2) I never said it was a bad thing
Re: Oii Griff - in the middle of the thread [^] and Re: Oii Griff - in the middle of the thread 2[^]
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Nelek wrote: 1) I never said it was a bad thing
2) I never said it was a bad thing To be fair, I didn't say that you did. However, you did express concern for the hacking part and I'm making a general statement regarding other people on this site and their concern about teaching hacking.
I think we should teach more hacking. It helps people understand exactly how something is working and how to make it more secure.
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ZurdoDev wrote: I think we should teach more hacking. It helps people understand exactly how something is working and how to make it more secure. That is what it should be, but pity is, that we live in a world where the biggest part of the people who learned about it, would use it for bad things
Sorry if I am a bit pesimist... I just read the news
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ZurdoDev wrote: To be fair, I didn't say that you did. Then sorry, I understood it wrongly.
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Nelek wrote: the biggest part of the people who learned about it, would use it for bad things That's my point. Bad people are going to be hacking regardless of what CP does. But if CP helps to make our code more secure then it's a good thing.
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User and one article are gone; just the "quick and practical example" one to go.
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Already gone... would you mind to explain a bit? Just curious. Looking at your subject I went for troll.
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It was just dumps of various JSON files with no explanation of anything.
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His three comments are showing as deleted, but seem to have been along the same lines:
Comments by Member 14144830[^]
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I just added this as plagiarised / spam - but I totally agree, it's complete garbage.
I suspect that it's the original "author" posting it, but I think it's intended to drive traffic to his site (the URL of which is at the top of the "article") though why anyone woudl want to I really don;t know ... everything there is of a similar quality.
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You were seconds faster than me... I deleted my post
Pity is... we won't know who put the payload to his bait
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