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We do the layout and contract someone else to do the graphical part of it.
So, no one is working with Photoshop here, just plain VS 2008
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Perhaps I am be the odd one in this; however, my background was in fine/graphic art as well as coding; so I enjoy launching Photoshop or Illustrator for some UI design. Often this presents difficulties for me since clients have difficulty believing this until I reveal my portfolio and other coders see no value in UI design beyond the drag-and-drop (then again, a good coder does not use the designer window; I wish I could disable it).
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Grav-Vt wrote: Not all coders are bad at UI
This is so true, some, not many, are excellent at GUI design. While I admire the results they get I don't envy them the work.
I am continually astonished at the number of developers, not coders, but developers who are artists of some description.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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we have someone in house who does the work and stinks at it.
this person wants to validate all ui changes and what comes out it not the best. Every screen looks busy, too complicated.
cheers,
Donsw
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unless we find a student or intern.
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...are they? I mean, I (the developer) can design the UI layout fairly well (easy to use, keyboard shortcuts provided, layout not too complicated, etc), but the icons & bitmaps that I draw look like... OK you don't want to know what they look like
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These are all internal applications, several don't even get (or didn't need at least) UI's
Usually just a status/log window and a logo
Unfortunately I made the mistake of raising my hand when they asked if anyone knew how to use Photoshop though. So I end up making most of the custom buttons, borders, etc and dressing up the logos.
I also ended up making the technical documentation templates due to my ability to use...... MS Word (not sure how I was the only one capably of handling that little feat)
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I like the last answer: I have no idea what happens in our organisation
So damn true in most big companies...
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Organization?
We Don't Need No Stinkin' Organization!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol
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nsimeonov wrote: most big companies
Also surprisingly true in small companies.
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always when i wrote my project in my company, this is one of the most time subversive thinks that i have to do. but this is my task and no anyone can help me anywhere
If you think you has fallen out of an elephant's nose ; I make you a donkey
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The importance of the UI design, based on my experience in years of developer is that:
I have 2 cases, we work hard developing some app and give to the customer the first release:
1 - The program have a super logic, with some bugs, and an ugly UI.
2 - The program have a poor logic, with many bugs, and nice or beatuiful UI.
In the first case, the customer said: "this program is a piece of s&%t, get out of sight?? "
In the second case, the customer said: "nice work!, I found some errors, can you fix them?, please. "
May be you think "He's mad", but i'm not the only one.
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This is really happening man, look and feel of the any site must be excellent.
5 from me.
Regards
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I am a hobby programmer and actually UI design is the aspect I like most
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I'm also a hobby programmer, and whenever I know that within the next ten minutes I'll have to start making some graphics, I suddenly decide that it's "time to get a life". I just can't stand it...
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Although I am a developer I enjoy UI and graphics. I answered ‘the developer does it’ because in my case I do. My hobbies include painting (pictures) glass engraving and other graphic pursuits so I do have some experience with colours, composition and so forth. I do not think I am good enough, or lucky enough, to try and make a living at it so I stick to cutting code but, for me, it is really nice to develop graphics as well as the source.
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Developer does the UI (windows), artist does application graphics (windows & web) and web designs for web based apps.
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A bit similar in our case. For the UI, the developer does it. When it comes to graphics, icons, ... our technical writer becomes the expert as he has some talents there.
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Sometimes they propose designs that are very expensive to develop so developers' input is also required, but I am very happy I don't have to design icons or pick colors
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Hi there
in all organization there is either UI Designer or the developer/programmer itself design the UI
but believe really it needs a Good environment, Good thinking
because user/client don't see what u code but see what u design and how it looks ??
the design/UI shows the Quality of our product...
so i think it is much difficult task....
cheers for UI Designer...
No doubt the applicaiton is TEAM WORK in which all Designer/Progrmmer/QC's and all releated person make good contribute.
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and UI design is a big difference job to graphic and skin design. It shows the way how a product and user will interact
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... and it's me. Whenever we're redesigning part of our web application, I bring in my MacBook Pro with Adobe Photoshop and I do everything myself. We used to have a graphics design person here years ago, but they were laid off... and the position was never filled.
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When a new project arises, I employ what I hope is a common practice, by meeting with the users. The ultimate outcome of this is that I created a two-page manual (for managers) on 'how to specify software.'
One the key notions I attempt to convey is to not specify what you want, but what you need. Pretty much giving the blank-check of application design is much like giving yelling free beer at a frat party. They cannot help but over indulge.
Once the basic requirements are specified by the group's manager (or some other allegedly responsible party), I go into their trenches so that I can design a GUI that actually follows the work flow of real users. In addition, many of the apps are stared at all day by the hapless users, so I try to make it eye-friendly (both by color choices and larger fonts). Rarely a consideration from the customer side.
The above is by no means a display of any particularly enlightenment, but rather a consequence of the same path of live-and-learn that many, or even most, of us have trod. With yet another one of my broad sweeping statements, I think it's safe to say that users don't really know what they want - so it becomes an unwritten part of our job description to do it for them.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol
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