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After working for a company that made all (president down to factory floor) wear the same uniform, I think it is okay but dull.
I voted pay as in package. Around here they have medical insurance included, but they are cutting back on what is covered. If no medical I need to be paid enough to handle medical expenses.
Location is nice as a criteria. Not wanting to move is a problem where I live. No IT jobs close. I am still looking for the telecommuting job where you show up once a week and work from home the rest.
Well I have ranted enough.
djj
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No overtime
Casual dress
I would work for anyone if I could wear shorts and flip flops to work.
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I agree but... I have worked in that kind of environment on and off for most of my 35 years in the business, however if the people in charge have their heads up their ass it don't matter how laid back the environment is the job is gonna suck.
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1)Location
and
2)Who is running the company
All the other options are affected by #2.
(yes, I am one of the 10 people out of 620 who voted 2 at the time of this posting)
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This question has to be multiple choice you need at least 3 options here.
The work, boss, distance and pay are all important!
Natza Mitzi
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Yes but the survey is about the MOST important..
Think about it. If you had only one answer to select a job between $100K at a prison or $90K at a Modelling Agency and both are on a train line which criteria is the MOST important to you?
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Women's Prison or Men's?
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Location is the very first thing to consider and therefore the most important.
When considering relocating for a job, think about what you'd do if they lay you off in a year. If you wouldn't stay in the same location, don't take the job.
And don't work east of where you live; if you work a typical 9-5 you'll have the sun in your eyes both ways.
Therefore don't live west of a major business area.
Concerning pay; I expect that the more they're willing to pay, the shorter they expect to keep you on. Many companies will hire a bunch of developers and then lay them off after a year. (It's happened to me, it's happened to colleagues of mine.)
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And don't work east of where you live; if you work a typical 9-5 you'll have the sun in your eyes both ways.
Therefore don't live west of a major business area
Therefore, move to California.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Concerning pay; I expect that the more they're willing to pay, the shorter they expect to keep you on. Many companies will hire a bunch of developers and then lay them off after a year. (It's happened to me, it's happened to colleagues of mine.)
Ouch...that one hit home...I was, for six months, the highest paid developer at a startup in MD...I was also a telecommuter....a CTO who hated telecommuters and wanted to cut costs got hired...end of my job.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And don't work east of where you live; if you work a typical 9-5 you'll have the sun in your eyes both ways.
I work basically 20 miles east of where I live but I rarely never work 9 to 5. More like 11 to 7.
John
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I've worked for companies where I get fined for turning up after 9, and couldn't leave before the boss did. Western companies tend to be a bit more flexible I think.
Flexi-time works better for me becasue I'm a night owl.
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Teleworking. Having control of your time and life is the best you can have as long as the work is done.
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John Stewien wrote: where I get fined for turning up after 9, and couldn't leave before the boss did
Was that some mechanical workshop?
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I was working as a Technical Support Engineer in Taiwan where the regional head office was. I did telephone support for the region going from New Zealand to Israel. The culture in some Taiwanese companies is very rigid.
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It is very hard to pin down which should go at the top. However, there when deciding there usually isn't much to go on except for:
* The pay packet
* The company you are working for (Working for a well know vs an unknown)
* Where the company is located
If you already know the company or have a friend working there you might also know about some of the others.
For me, the pay packets wasn't so important. I turned down an extra £6K to work closer to home (there were other factors as well). But also, I've turned down offers of work because the pay wasn't high enough - I have a mortgage to pay after all!
I've simply not applied for jobs when I've known the following:
* Who you would be working with
* Who you would be working for (your bosses)
* Who is running the company
And I've never really know what the following factors were:
* The office environment you are working in
* The methodology used at work
* The work itself
You might say that I could ask at interview, however people lie in interviews. The interviewers as well as the interviewees. I've never had a really accurate answer - whether through simple dishonesty or the interviewer not actually knowing what was really going on.
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Agree with you. well said
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Agreed. I've turned down a job because the dress code included dress shirt and tie (although that wasn't the only negative factor in that decision).
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For me, an interaction:
- technologies (interesting, keep me employable for any next job)
- people; do I like being here
- commute; can I get here reasonably (distance/traffic)
- flex stuff; hours - must I be 9 to 5, or are other times ok?
Money can be a deal breaker, but seems to be reasonable if the above are reasonable...
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I would agree that in some cases getting a clear picture of those items can be difficult, but they aren't impossible in all cases. And yes, the interview is where you collect that information. When that interviewer asks you "do you have any questions" these are the items readily available to you to ask about. "What's the CEO like?", "What sorts of methodologies do you use?", "What roll would I play on the team?", "How are feature decisions made?" You can pick up a lot of good information. I knew the answer to every single one of the poll choices before I took my current job, and I had an accurate picture of all of them. Yes, my current company is very small which makes some of those easier to know, but that too is part of the decision making process.
That said, I agree with others here that it is hard to say one of these is the most important, but the question is still valid. Just because you weight 1 criteria higher than the others (and for me it was the Work) doesn't mean that a combination of other negative factors won't offset that factor, or if that factor isn't high enough it will take others to sway the difference. When making the decision, you can't put one of these in a vacuum and pick, but there IS one that is MOST important to you.
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It seems from the results, nobody cares about location, as long as it pays well.
So, anyone for a 200k/year job in Bagdad?
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Hm, for Bagdad it should be 500k/year
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There are jobs within about 20 miles of my house, but the roads are so backed up that my commute to and from work would be 90 minutes each. I don't care how much the job pays if I have to leave at 6am and don't get home until 6pm. It simply doesn't provide enough family time.
The other factors is, of course, the gas prices. Stop-and-slow traffic kills gas mileage. I'd have to ask for a $10k raise just to break even -- I take the train in to work now.
Paul
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