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Being a Java EE developer, JSF is all I can truly rely on.
It's a headache sometimes. So I've resulted in exporting vanilla HTML, CSS & JS code from no-code platforms, then converting to JSF.
Java is not dead.
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Vanilla JS[^] 
For all the people who didn't get the joke, Vanilla JS simply means the standard.
No frameworks or anything, so you don't need anything to run it because it's already there.
I picked Vue by the way, it's simple and provides some binding.
Better than the default which has none of that and is bloated and complicated to no end when it comes to DOM manipulation 
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Thanks for clearing that up. I incorrectly assumed that Vanilla was a framework!
That's my preference, even avoiding jQuery (dependencies) when possible.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Me, too. Giving a frameworked version of javascript a name like vanilla wouldn't surprise me so there's no reason to go down the list trying to look up every version to see if it's really just plain using the language free of the shackles of framework changes and disappearances.
Interestingly, if they put something like "plain vanilla javascript" - without any capitalization, it would have been quite clear.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
For all the people who didn't get the joke, Vanilla JS simply means the standard.
No frameworks or anything, so you don't need anything to run it because it's already there.
There is always a first step[^]  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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One cannot choose "no front end" or "I like it naked". Or, "I roll my own".
You can't put in everyone's favorite - OK - but omitting the NONE option really absurd. It should, in fact, be a built-in on a very large number of surveys where it is not.
Is it that hard to leave yourself, Oh Survey Guru, to include this option - or at least let us know if you're writing a book "The Collected Works of omitted None-of-the-Above Objections"
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Sadly, "None of the Above" doesn't appear on election ballots either. It would say too much about the emperor's clothes.
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Interesting note inducing an anecdote:
Back in my university days, we're talking about those active Vietnam war era days, the student government was having a lot of trouble because the "No" vote was doing too well and threatening to win - so they banned it.
In response, the winner of the following election (very shortly after) was Simon D. Dog - who was just what it sounds like: Simon the Dog (a friendly mutt that ran around campus with a neckerchief). If only that could be done at the large level.
But does it matter? One of the 'candidates' has determined and preaches that if he doesn't win the election was fixed - and apparently will not speak the words that he will leave office if not elected. Blood in the streets - not his - so no big deal to him as he attempts a coup.
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I have no use for either of them. The Red vs Blue team thing, when you pull back the curtain, is about as real as professional wrestling, and the fans get even more worked up.
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except that it's not.
if you can't see the difference between what Trump brings and what Biden says he'll bring ... maybe politics isn't for you?
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An election is an advance auction of stolen goods. --H.L.Mencken
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Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong.
--H.L.Mencken
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That's why I find politics offensive. Choosing masters who think they know what is best for entire populations and are willing to enforce it with violence.
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politics is what happens when people interact, no more no less.
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politics is what happens when people interact with the implicit threat of violence, no more no less
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violence isn't necessary. [and libertarianism is a moral dead end]
politics is people trying to convince other people to do something. it's how people interact.
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For those who practice politics, violence is necessary when convincing others (negotiation) fails.
It seems clear that we're not going to agree, even on definitions.
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no, violence is not necessary. it's a possibility, but it's neither inevitable nor necessary.
have you never heard of compromise or simply, gasp, not getting your way?
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Sure I've heard of those things. They happen regularly. But in all my dealings, I want those outcomes to be voluntary, whether for me or someone else.
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Were the options to the survey ninja updated?
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: One cannot choose "no front end"
I don't do front-end web development
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: "I like it naked"
Vanilla JS
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: "I roll my own".
Arguably also Vanilla JS; just with a higher degree of code reuse.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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You can literally choose all of those.
I don't do front-end web development, Vanilla JS and/or other are what you're looking for.
Maybe the survey guru is writing a book, but you can't even read so why do you care? 
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: One cannot choose "no front end"
Ya, that is an option. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I'm currently using Vue, and love it. But if I have to stuck with a framework, my choice will be no framework. Or, maybe wasm...
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Be careful with that[^]
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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