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How can life exists without a body? like soooo there is no meaning of software with out hardware..so an appealing knowledge about the hardware is very need for a software developer...proper understanding of hardware will enhance the programms...and reduce the burdens ...
so we cannot neglect the hardware...it is equally importanat as software....
as i previously mentioned hardware is the body ..software is the lifee...proper combination of these two made a system in life....
There is a Sofware Behind Everything...
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Its like trying to convince somebody to buy your car.
If you do not know anything about the car or how it works you cannot sell the car, someone else has to do that.
So people who wants to program should also be able to setup servers and find problems when it accoure.
At my job I manage the servers and I program. I have 2 others that does not know anything about the servers, and they fail and try 100 times more than me to get the things working.
More knowledge = More oppertunities...
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Yes, i do agree this. The more you know, the more benefit to you and to the company.
sshhz
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But now I just barely know enough to build my own machine. This is really sad since my degree is in computer engineering, you know the one that is half way between computer science and electrical engineering. I built my own computer from scratch for my senior project, wire wrapping and all. I don't know what happened, but I just haven't kept up my knowledge or my hardware. This was made very clear the other day as the computer store didn't stock the required hardware for my machine - "Thats been discontinued for some time sir". Even worse is I actually purchased some RAM that doesn't even work with my motherboard. I must be getting old, soon I will be recalling the days of my youth when I was BBSing on a 300 baud modem. Just like how my grandfather walked 7 miles in the snow to get to school.
Chris Hafey
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Yeah, I know what you mean. It was not long ago that I was teaching Networking. Building machines, tearing down networks. For a time in the 80's we use to fix the mother boards, or at least try. Now, forget it. I'm lucky if I can manage to take the thing apart or upgrade without doing damage for what I don't know. I moved on to coding and I like it better, so I say to hell with the machines - code, code, code. It's what I as a computer science major am supposed to do. Right?
Marion
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Actually, everytime I decide to have a new computer I just buy the parts and get on with it... Know your hardware, then know your programs... 
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I was thinking about selling my Gateway Box and building my own, but since I will be starting college soon I would rather be able to call up Gateway and get it fixed rather than deal with it myself.
- Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist
-Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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I know a lot of people who succumbed to the lure of the bovine computer, and the one thing they're unanimous about is how useless the support is. On the other hand, I've yet to have a problem with a system I built. If you live in a place where quality parts are available, you might want to reconsider.
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I could probably sell my current computer for about $400 USD and build a new one that is only slightly faster for $800 and up. I have had generally good luck with Gateway but as soon as I have a good paying job after college I will build myself a dream machine.
- Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist
-Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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Matt Newman wrote:
as soon as I have a good paying job after college I will build myself a dream machine
I think we all said that, and the 'dream machine' lasted about 6 months before it became a slow clunky old thing like the one we had 6 momths ago
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
'dream machine' lasted about 6 months before it became a slow clunky old thing like the one we had 6 momths ago
Thats longer than I would have given it
- Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist
-Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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I always build my own at work. But the high street prices have come down to such a level, we're hard pushed to be the mass produced prices now. I was going to build one for a mate, but it turned out I could only do it for £10 less. I don't buy the bits from magazine adverts, I have an account with an importer / buyer so I'd have thought I could have got it cheaper. At then end of the day you can't beat mass produced products. Some moons ago the company I work for used to sell 8 port hubs for £100, when everyone else was doing them for £300. Now we can't beat £8 from Taiwan!!
Jeremy Davis
http://www.astad.org
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Stefan Spenz wrote:
Know your hardware, then know your programs...
Doesn't really apply to Windows development. Know your OS, know your programs is more approriate. Lets face it the OS hides so much from us nowadays it is very rare that the hardware affects how we write our code.
Michael
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Michael P Butler wrote:
Doesn't really apply to Windows development. Know your OS, know your programs is more approriate. Lets face it the OS hides so much from us nowadays it is very rare that the hardware affects how we write our code.
Unless you are writing device drivers. 
No generalization is 100% true.
Not even this one.
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There needs to be an option between:
Hardware specialist and Familar with hardware enough that I can rebuild boxes
I am not a complete specialist, but I have more knowledge of hardware than just building boxes! If necessary, I can put circuits together and design them (logic only generally) if I have to. Thats what working with prototype instrumentation does to you!
I sometimes live with a soldering iron! Actually, that sounds soooo like my Girlfrined! 
I get burnt most nights! (and its not friction burns  )
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
yet to be identified being from the planet Paltinmoriumbanfrettybooter
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Your "putting together some circuits" has nothing to do with this poll. You obviously misunderstood sth. here.
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The poll is about computer hardware, or any hardware in general, not about PC specific stuff. If its electrical and can be connected to a CPU etc, then I think in effect it comes under this poll. I may not be a specialist, but I have a lot of that knowledge.
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
yet to be identified being from the planet Paltinmoriumbanfrettybooter
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.. please could we have an option "Roger Allen"
<bold>Alice thought that running very fast for a long time would get you to somewhere else. " A very slow kind of country!" said the queen. "Now, here , you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place".
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Alex wrote:
please could we have an option "Roger Allen"
Sounds good, but only psychos would vote for that one! 
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
yet to be identified being from the planet Paltinmoriumbanfrettybooter
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I know enough to get by, enough to know that I'll let somebody else build them. If they blow the components at least I don't suffer the cost.
I've no problem with swapping drives and cards in and out after I've got the machine built but I'd rather let somebody else build it.
Michael
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I've no problem with swapping drives and cards in and out after I've got the machine built but I'd rather let somebody else build it.
I'm similar, But I find most HW so reliable, that I don't need to play with it on a regular basis.
Regardz
Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
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"real Americans don't criticize their leaders - because they don't want the terrorists to win." -- Quote from Chris Losinger a real American"
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Colin Davies wrote:
But I find most HW so reliable, that I don't need to play with it on a regular basis.
My DVD failed on me recently so I had to replace that. Also I have had a tendancy to upgrade my 3D graphics card a lot. I don't tend to do too much else switching about apart from if one of my machines dies and I need to get stuff off the hard disk before I send it to be fixed.
Michael
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...I started my career as an RF Design Engineer back in 1987. 
After that I moved into ATE Systems...initially support (including some software, but none under Windows, and zilch in OO languages), then later feasibility studies and bid work, before the inevitable happened and we won a contract.
Since I was one of the system software architects (I had a lot of experience the company hadn't used up to that point) I ended up leading one of the software teams, and I haven't looked back since.
Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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After school I had the choice between computer engineering vs. electrical engineering. I talked to several guys already studying. The synapses was that for computer engineers a computer is just a black box, while electrical engineers know what's going up inside a PC. Therefore I became an eletrical engineer, too.
Regards
Thomas
Finally with Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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Clever choice! Power = Knowledge!
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http://lars.werner.no
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