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Some of my projects are in 4.0 and some of them are in 3.5 (as they are developed earlier and client don't want to upgrade ).
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Just straight multiplatform C++, plus some Python, bash and Perl. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
Unfortunately, it seems there is a Java component in the backlog. I guess I'll just hold my nose and code it as quickly as I can.
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If I want to start with a new project what framework should I use?
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Depends on your target customer setup. If no constraints: latest-is-greatest, right?
Cheers
Andi
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محمد م. محمد wrote: a new project
The obvious question is, what kind?
/ravi
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I recommend .NET 4 (or later) as that allows you to use ASP .NET MVC 4.
/ravi
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Adding the possibility of not targeting any .Net version is strange... isn't it?
Anyway... I would be targeting the one with "Bacon CListCtrls"!
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Just guessing that the "not targetting" option gives non-NET developers a chance to vote anyway (and would provide an interesting comparision number).
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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I think most will not vote instead of seeing the details of the survey to vote as "not targeting".
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Most of my software talks to hardware and doesn't really use .net framework. But when selecting a new project I will use the latest version installed. May be I should give a bit more thought about using the framework in the future.
Why is it when you are busy everyone whats it yesterday, But when your not no-one has any work for you?
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Because everyone should feel included.
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Joan Murt wrote: Adding the possibility of not targeting any .Net version is strange... isn't it?
Java  C++ etc... are people who still have to graduate to .Net World ....
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture
cheers,
Alok Gupta
VC Forum Q&A :- I/ IV
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For example, if I am writing something to use at home, I will go for the latest 'production' version, as I will have it installed. However, if I am writing something for work on their machines, I will check to see what the current highest level installed is by the IT police and target that.
So, 4.5.1 for home and 4.0 for work.
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... that is quickly abandoned for the next great idea? Why learn something that will become obsolete before you have really gotten used to it?
I will not waste my time on this again.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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So, what is your decision when for whatever reason you develop for a Windows OS? No decision is also a decision... 
Cheers
Andi
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Windows 1.0 contains everything that you'll ever need!! 
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...and we like to programm all in assembly anyways. Everything else is for wimps.  Why standing on the shoulders of others when you can be at the base of the pyramid? We need heroes!
Or: "an un-aimed arrow never misses" (i.e. always hits "a" target)
Cheers
Andi
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Andreas Gieriet wrote: ...and we like to programm all in assembly anyways. Everything else is for
wimps.
No. Assembly still is too comfortable. Try machine language and hex Keyboards. If you only have Hardware made for, you said it yourself, wimps, then I can send you the schematics to build a suitable Computer.
Andreas Gieriet wrote: Why standing on the shoulders of others when you can be at the base of the pyramid? We need heroes!
I honestly would settle for more People who can stand on their own feet.
If the giant I'm supposedly am standing on turns out to be a company which pulls away the rug under my feetevery time they feel like doing so, then I don't really think that's funny. I scrapped code worth enough to buy a Lamborghini, and please not the plain basic model. I would not yet be finished adapting everything to Windows 8 and everything that came with it and by now I would have to fear an upcoming new change of direction.
No thanks. There are other shoulders to stand on which I hope are not too shaky to carry me a Little longer.
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Yeah, the pace of change is higher and higher - everywhere. But if you (or your customers) decided for a certain track (e.g. .Net), then keep up-to-date to a certain degree is probably the only option.
The same for the various portable devices, the various embedded devices, ... everywhere (unless you live in your own universe and have a ecosystem that is self-sufficient).
Cheers
Andi
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Andreas Gieriet wrote: everywhere (unless you live in your own universe and have a ecosystem that is
self-sufficient).
In a way that's what I always have been doing. In the stone age my ever growing libraries just saved a lot of work, later they insulated me from most changes and gave me control over when and how I deal with changes in the OS.
This was a good way to go over dacade, but has failed with ,Net (or with Mickeysoft). At some Point I was spending too much time adapting to changes and working less and less on the projects. When they killed off some stuff dor W8, I just was not willing to adapt everything again.
I can live with a reasonable amout of change and also try to benefit from new features, but I don't need Mickeysoft to keep me busy without any other reason than their sales.
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Just to satisfy my curiosity: what area of functionality/support do we talk about that breaks your path to Windows 8?
Cheers
Andi
PS: Do you know this proverb: "Attributing others with nicknames tells more about you than about the others..." 
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No. I have found sme surviving videos, so I can show you.
Here you see the 3D engine[^] at work. And here we have a video about the GUI[^].
Both needed XNA, which was silently scrapped. Instead they wanted to haveus write some Win8 (cr)app, made for weak devices that don't support half of what was needed. Much less did I want to wate my time porting code once again.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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So, how is Windows 8.1 treating you?
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Not at all. Win 7 is still good for running old stuff, but I have already thrown out Visual studio and do my programming with C++ again.
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